All the vehicles I have seen owned by people in the Mojave desert are white. (unless they are short-timers)
At 02:52 PM 6/29/2007, you wrote: >I will admit that I do not know the technical answer to the question >posed. However, I think we all know that one >can generally lay one's hand flat on the hood of a white car that >has been sitting in the sun but one cannot do >that with a dark colored car. I have to think that there is going to >be some heat transfer if the metal is hotter. >Given a long enough time, the interior might end up about the same. >We need a test to see if it is true. > >The same sort of thing happens to the interior as well. Try sitting >on a black vinyl seat when the sun has been >shining through the window. My old 68 Chevy pickup has a black bench >seat and you don't want to climb aboard in >summer wearing shorts. My 300D has the off white color seats and I >can never recall the seats being uncomfortable >no matter how warm the car is when I get in. > >Of course, I'm not in Arizona either. > >Randy > >-----Original Message----- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Zoltan Finks >Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 1:48 PM >To: Mercedes Discussion List >Subject: Re: [MBZ] Paint Color & Heat : was Window Tint > > >Got to chime in on this one. > >I do see the point that given enough time maybe the white car would >gather about as much heat as the black car. But then again, maybe not, >because all the while, the black car's surface is collecting more heat >than the white's. > >I'm chiming in because my Dad (you met him, Chuck - quite a brainy >guy) was always and advocate of the light colored car and pointed out >white roofs on buses etc. We grew up in Tucson. In fact we have a >picture of my sister up on top of our van painting the top of it white >with a brush. Classic picture. > >Of course my dad was all about visibility too, and the lighter colored >cars are good there I think. He liked to point out how the fire trucks >and ambulances switched from red to chartreuse. > >Oh, and when we were teens we wanted sorely to paint our cars red, but >he constantly quoted the statistic that red cars get more tickets. By >the time I was of driving age or a bit older, family authority had >loosened enough that not only did I wind up with a big block coupe as >my first car, but I eventually painted it red (then black!). > >Brian > >On 6/28/07, ernest breakfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > hi Chuck! > > > > i'm sure if they were to sit for long enough there wouldn't be any > > difference, but i can assure you that there is a very real and > > noticeable difference in the black and white painted areas of my J**p... > > i'm betting that after enough hours there would be enough heat energy > > passing through to the interior through the glass that interior temps > > might be equal, but it would appear that having the roof white at least > > slows down the rate at which the vehicle heats up. (ever notice how the > > roofs of school buses, motor homes, and Land Cruisers/Rovers that see > > Dez duty are white?) > > > > > > cheers! > > e > > > > > > Chuck Landenberger wrote: > > > Hi guys, > > > Living in the Valley of the Sun, I've got two cars that are tinted > > > and that helps while one is driving. And they are both Smoke Silver > > > because I didn't want any dark colored car. > > > > > > But, does anyone have any information to determine if there is any > > > interior temperature differential between similar black and white > > > cars sitting for a fixed period of time in the sun. > > > > > > I've been told anecdotal info that indicates there is NO difference > > > at all. > > > > > > Just an inquiring mind! > > > > > > Take care and be safe, > > > > > > Chuck > > > Phoenix AZ > > > > > > > > > On Jun 28, 2007, at 6:31 PM, ernest breakfield wrote: > > > > > > > > >> Loren, > > >> > > >> not sure i understand what your issue with tinting is; what about > > >> tinting makes a car ghetto (or whatever you actually call it)? in > > >> places > > >> where the sun actually shines, it can make a car much more > > >> pleasant, and > > >> even preserve the interior by not allowing interior temps to rise > > >> as high. > > >> > > >> i wouldn't have my J**p XJ now without tinting, but that's because > > >> it plays in the Deserts, high-altitudes, and all along the coasts; all > > >> of which can be sunnier than what i care to expose myself or my > > >> vehicle > > >> interior to... its tinting has only been there for about 10 years so > > >> far, but it still looks fine; no indication of any need to redo it > > >> yet, > > >> but that's probably because it was professionally done by a place that > > >> knew how. granted, it's California Legal (clear front doors and > > >> windshield) because that's where it's registered, but even that > > >> partial > > >> tinting combined with the roof painted white sure seems to keep it > > >> cooler inside than before i made those mods. > > >> the tinting in the 300D is a little bit shaggier looking, but it > > >> came to me that way; that's only because the POs dogs had left > > >> scratches > > >> on it in a couple of places (and i don't know how quality of a job it > > >> was to begin with). it's a full tint except for the windshield, and > > >> also > > >> one of the only '85s i've seen that doesn't have a single crack in the > > >> dash or anywhere else in the interior, in spite of the fact that it > > >> was > > >> originally a Southern California car. > > >> > > >> on a recent road trip to Eastern Texas and back, i noticed that in > > >> places where they really know sun, it was hard to find cars that > > >> *didn't* have tinting... but you know what a ghetto places like > > >> Scottsdale, Santa Fe, and Palm Springs are. ;-) > > >> > > >> > > >> cheers! > > >> e > > >> > > >> > > >> Loren Faeth wrote: > > >> > > >>> Why would you want to turn a good MB into a ghetto ride? (my real > > >>> terminology is somewhat different) > > >>> > > >>> Took me hours to scrape of the stupid "tint" off the back window of > > >>> the TD. The crap does deteriorate. Even if it is ok for a year or 3 > > >>> after it is put on, it deteriorates and is a holy mess to get off. > > >>> > > >>> At 06:46 PM 6/28/2007, you wrote: > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>> Window tinting in Seattle is like buying a snow blower in SO > > >>>> CA.....just in > > >>>> case I ever need it. > > >>>> > > >>>> On 6/28/07, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>>> But you'll be very happy with it. You will not find any flaws (or > > >>>>> shouldn't) and will look at it with pride of ownership you would > > >>>>> never > > >>>>> have > > >>>>> if you tried to do it yourself. You might do something like > > >>>>> this once > > >>>>> every > > >>>>> 15-20 years while the pro's do 2 or 3 a *day*!! > > >>>>> > > >>>>> That's the only way you get good at it - > > >>>>> > > >>>>> After a while you'll forget about the $250 - but you'll always > > >>>>> remember > > >>>>> the > > >>>>> quality because it'll be in front of you everyday. Just like a > > >>>>> poor job > > >>>>> full of wrinkles will be in front of you also - reminding you of > > >>>>> those $$s > > >>>>> you saved. ;-) > > >>>>> > > >>>>> I tried it once myself on a Chev sedan we had - it looked > > >>>>> terrible and my > > >>>>> wife commented on it daily - I ended up removing it and living > > >>>>> without it. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) > > >>>>> www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts > > >>>>> Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil > > >>>>> PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net > > >>>>> Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs > > >>>>> Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ > > >>>>> . > > >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > > >>>>> From: "Zeitgeist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >>>>> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > > >>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 4:15 PM > > >>>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Window Tint > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> I have an appointment for next Tuesday, to have the pros > > >>>>>> install tint. > > >>>>>> $250--ouch! 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