us spec airbags are designed to kill. my 10 year old wants to know why her government wants her dead. i told her it isn't personally as they want us all to fear death from them another means of control.
On 8/19/07, Hendrik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So you are trying to tell me that cars are designed to kill > intentionally, I suppose you're argument would be that firearms are > designed only for self defense? > I suppose if you want to split hairs that is your prerogative but my way > of looking at it that cars are designed to transport people from A to B > and firearms are designed to fire a bullet at high speed at whatever you > point them at. What idiots do with either I can't help. > However if you want to dig into stats then go and look at the proportion > of gun ownership and gun deaths. Apparently the US and Canada have a > similar percentage of gun ownership but nowhere near the number of > related gun deaths. Why is this so? I have my theories but this is not a > gun discussion forum and as such might provoke as much hostility as > discussing politics or religion. > We are here primarily to discuss automotive things, particularly MB, but > also talk about other things every now and then. > I have had my knuckles rapped a few times for expressing my political > views, the basis being that discussion on that subject can lead to > heated arguments and as such I am happy to not impose my political or > religious views here. This is called civility, hopefully I am given the > same treatment when it comes to the subject of firearms. > You just never know, if we really all work hard together then one day we > can put away these machines of death and focus on the machines of life. > > Fmiser wrote: > > > > > > "machines of death". > > > > In the USA, the number of deaths: > > > > 44000 due to automobile accidents > > 29500 due to firearms (including 16,000 _suicides_) > > > > > http://stephenrees.wordpress.com/2007/01/03/huge-toll-in-car-fatalities-in-us-goes-unnoticed/ > > > > http://library.med.utah.edu/WebPath/TUTORIAL/GUNS/GUNSTAT.html > > > > So are you referring to our cars when you say "machines of death"? > > > > Maybe you should be. > > > > Way to die, and the number of deaths in 2003 due to each - from: > > http://www.nsc.org/lrs/statinfo/odds.htm > > > > All External Causes of Mortality 166,857 > > Motor-Vehicle Accidents, 44,757 > > Intentional self-harm 31,484 > > Accidental poisoning by and exposure to noxious substances 19,457 > > Assault 17,732 > > Falls 17,229 > > Firearm (non-suicide) 12,267 > > Accidental asphyxiations (threats to breathing) 8,885 > > Complications of medical and surgical care 2,855 > > > > > > Maybe where you are the roads are safer. Or the chance of poison > > is less. Or gravity doesn't work so hard so a fall is less > > likely. > > > > I see three significant conclusions from this data. > > * The roads are much more dangerous than the guns. > > * If I choose to defend myself and my family, we are less likely > > to be one of the 17,000. > > * The risk of dieing from assault is less than death by poison > > and nearly the same as death from a fall - so why worry about > > assault protection. > > > > -- Philip, owner of many machines of death - mostly W123s > > > > > > > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com