90's? I am pretty sure it was a requirement at least by the 70's to have shoulder belts. I have never seen a GM car without shoulder belts and I have owned many from the 80's. You sure it was just not hacked up? Actually, nevermind, I see you were talking about the rear seat. No, I dont think 80's and early 90's had them in the rear, just lap belts.
--- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor ----- Original Message ----- From: "LarryT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 10:37 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Quick Mercedes trivia questions > You wrote:<<on the seatbelt as std. equipment, I think MB was late to the > dance, as all US cars had them factory installed in 65 or 66. To their > benefit, MB >> > > Not sure about the front belts - but MB was early in putting shoulder > belts > in the rear seat position. My 78 240D has them and some cars made in early > 90s did not have them... My Mons 91 Olds did not for instance - > > Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) > www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts > Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil > PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net > Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs > . > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Loren Faeth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 3:40 AM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Quick Mercedes trivia questions > > >> My 66 110 200D did not come with factory seat belts. They were >> federally mandated in the USA in 1966. My 66 has dealer installed >> german belts. My 62 110 did have mounting points for 3 point belts, >> but came from the factory with a shoulder belt only. It was European >> delivery, but there were no US specific Models until 1968. I am not >> sure about models released before the 1959 debut of the 111, but all >> 111 and 110, 112 bodies have mounting points for 3 point belts. I >> think the /8 cars had seat belts standard equipment. the /8 made its >> USA debut in 1968, but I am not sure about the rest of the world. >> >> My 65 110 190Dc had seat belts, but they were also dealer installed, >> German. >> >> Alas, on the seatbelt as std. equipment, I think MB was late to the >> dance, as all US cars had them factory installed in 65 or 66. To >> their benefit, MB made seat belts available, at least as far back as >> the 50s. The factory had options for lap belts, shoulder belts and >> probably for 3 point belts it was up to the buyer, the dealer or the >> country (importer) to specify what belt type, or no belt.. I am >> pretty sure in the 300SL and SLR that seat belts were pretty much >> standard, although the factory probably had some different options, >> like maybe 4 point in the SLR >> >> I believe pontons also had mounting points, but again they were not >> standard equipment. >> >> almost all other features of modern cars made its debut on Mercedes >> Benz automobiles before other marques. the list is enormous. Almost >> every safety feature was standard in MB years before becoming >> available or standard from Detroit. If memory serves me, the 1914 >> Mercedes I saw in Vancouver, BC had an antitheft steering lock and >> ignition switch. It also had an electric starter and may other >> innovations not seen on US cars until years later. I was stunned >> that it had a battery and electric starter in 1914. in 1914, >> International Harvester was building trucks that still looked like a >> high wheel wagon, not a truck as we know them. >> >> Loren >> MB owner since 1971 >> >> At 11:15 PM 9/16/2007, you wrote: >>>I'm helping someone compose the Mercedes Story for children and she's >>>got me stumped on a couple of points: >>> >>>Does anyone know who designed the W136 170? I'm pretty sure it would >>>have been Hermann Ahrens, who was design chief before and after the war, >>>but haven't been able to find any definitive answer online. >>> >>>When did seat belts become standard in Mercedes? 1964? And is it true >>>that MB was the first carmaker to install them as standard equipment? >>>(Besides Tucker, I mean.) >>> >>>Appreciate any insight, >>>Tom >>> >>>_______________________________________ >>>http://www.okiebenz.com >>>For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >>>For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>>To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> Loren Faeth >> >> >> _______________________________________ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.22/1015 - Release Date: >> 9/18/2007 11:53 AM >> >> > > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com