Interesting.  What kind of circumference would such a pump have?  Is it
inserted through the pipe or is a larger diameter hole dug with pump and
pipes dropped through that? What sort of current would such a pump require?
I doubt if we are in such a dome because we are at the top of a hill that
drops down to almost river level on all four sides within a mile or less. 
We certainly do have some hardpan in FL.  When I dug a drain field for a
bath I was installing in Lakeland [near Tampa] the 'uphill' end of the
trench had water in it, and I was able to get to less than 1/2 inch [very
carefully] of connecting the trenches with no seepage at all.  Percolation
rate through that stuff was almost nil. To use a spike stand sprinkler I had
to take a hammer and screwdriver and pound a hole in the stuff and stand the
sprinkler up in it.  Fortunately it was only in a small part of the yard,
but I had to extend the drain field another 10 feet to get past the hard pan
so the thing would work. In my next life I plan to be rich enough to have
the entire job done by the pros and not just the tank.  I was fresh out of
school then and the only option was sweat equity.
BillR  

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] VAC LEAKS

I would guess a well drilled four years ago would have a submersible pump 
lowered into the well.  The pumps you describe may be auxiliaries to provide

topside pressure.  I've heard of people using "booster" pumps topside if the

well is pretty deep since it takes part of the load off the submersible and 
can provide a better flow of water and higher pressure for the house and 
sprinkler system.
Another possibility I can think of is that the well diggers went through 
hardpan into a "pressure dome" and the water level came up the pipe to where

a surface pump could be used.  We had that happen when we hand drove a 
couple of wells in the Tampa area when we first came to Florida. 
Nevertheless, that seems unlikely given the low water levels both 
underground and above ground nowadays.

There "could" be a smaller jet pipe inside a larger "return" pipe.  This 
would look like a simple pump system but could actually be a jet pump.
Gerry
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> From: "Bill " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Perhaps, as the 3" [4"?] pipe is big enough, but when it goes down it also
> has a single valve that seems to be the width of the pipe, and the 
> fittings
> on the pump don't suggest anything like that.  I'll look more closely next
> time I am out there, but with the sprinkler and two pumps tied together 
> [one
> pumps water into a pressurized tank and into the @175 gal aerator, the 
> other
> from the aerator into a pressurized tank for the house] it is a bit of a
> maze - and mostly underground.  The new well was dug about 4 years ago.
> BillR
> ------------------------------------
> Bill may have a (jet?) pump with two pipes in the casing.  Water is pumped
> down one pipe and up the other pipe bringing additional water with it.
> Those were common before submersible pumps were perfected.  They were > 
> not very efficient.  I forget the physics involved.  Venturi principle?
> Gerry
>
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