Hi Dave, I am disabled - have been for over 10 years with a disease not many people have ever heard of (Chronic Inflammatory Demylinating Polyneuropathy - the mylin covering the nerves is being attacked by antibodies in my blood) - in case you wanted to know. I've had all kinds of procedures, operations, ad every other kind of medical thingie performed on me during that time and not once did the several insurance companies I had deny or even slow down payment for something a doctor ordered. Even when changing carriers they always picked me up even with a pre-existing condition. Maybe I've been lucky?
IMHO, the number of appropriate procedures ordered where insurance companies deny payment is pretty small. I think the media has taken a few and blown them out or proportion - which is what they always do. I know people have had horror stories where *payment for* treatment was denied - and the media was informed and news careers were made. But when that happens, the hospital has always been ready to make arrangements for payment - it might be $50/mo for life but the procedure can be done. Usually the only procedures denied payment are experimental ones - but the line must be drawn somewhere. If something works in rats doesn't mean it will work in people. There's a difference between treating people and research. What if a experimental procedure kills someone? Is the insurance co partly responsible because it approved payment? Perhaps - the legal system is a tangled web. Have a nice weekend - we may have to agree to disagee. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . ----- Original Message ----- From: "dave walton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 8:44 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] National Health Insurance: was: Coffee is Hot > Unfortunately, a good percentage of the public cannot afford to pay > for healthcare. Capitalism then says they don't get any. I would argue > that system is not appropriate for providing healthcare. > If you have ever had payment for a necessary medical procedure denied > by a 'private industry' healthcare insurer, you know what I mean. > > -Dave Walton > > On Jan 11, 2008 7:26 AM, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> You must be joking! >> capitalism works when free to operate properly. supply & demand always >> works - prices >> float to the level the public is willing to pay. >> >> Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) >> www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts >> Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil >> PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net >> Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs >> . >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> >> >> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 12:04 AM >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] National Health Insurance: was: Coffee is Hot >> >> >> > Sort of like the private sector? >> > >> > On Jan 9, 2008 6:16 PM, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> >> Everything the government decides to "Do" it screws up and it ends up >> >> being >> >> filled with corruption and fraud. >> >> >> >> Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) >> >> www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts >> >> Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil >> >> PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net >> >> Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs >> >> . >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "WALTER WARREN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> >> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 1:39 AM >> >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] National Health Insurance: was: Coffee is Hot >> >> >> >> >> >> >I have a friend who has many years in the insurance business. His >> >> opinion >> >> > is valued by me and it is this :"Keep the politicians out of the >> >> > ins. >> >> > coverage business. We just had a major cost increase because the WA >> >> State >> >> > lawmakers deemed it necessary that mental health should be covered." >> >> > URGH!!! >> >> > >> >> > On Jan 4, 2008 7:34 PM, archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> From: "John Robbins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> >> >> >> >> > archer wrote: >> >> >> >> In your opinion, perhaps. In my opinion it's never too late to >> >> >> >> discuss >> >> >> >> and >> >> >> >> offer solutions for major problems that face America. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Its also a very political topic... something best reserved for >> >> banned. >> >> >> > Join up and I'm sure everyone will start talking about it again. >> >> >> > :) >> >> >> > John >> >> >> .............................................. >> >> >> Just joined. >> >> >> Thanks, John. >> >> >> Gerry >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________ >> >> >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> >> >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> >> >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> >> >> > _______________________________________ >> >> > http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> >> > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> > >> >> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> >> > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > No virus found in this incoming message. >> >> > Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> >> > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.0/1216 - Release Date: >> >> 1/9/2008 >> >> > 10:16 AM >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________ >> >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> > _______________________________________ >> > http://www.okiebenz.com >> > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > >> > >> > -- >> >> > No virus found in this incoming message. >> > Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.0/1216 - Release Date: >> > 1/9/2008 >> > 10:16 AM >> > >> >> >> _______________________________________ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.1/1219 - Release Date: 1/11/2008 > 10:19 AM > _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com