Yes, the US helps in disasters worldwide, though our giving per capita is quite low compared to many others I don't remember the figures anymore, but I think we are among the lowest of the developed countries. When disasters occur here millions of dollars and goods are donated by other countries. The company I worked for was responsible for receiving some of it, the rest was sent to or offered to our government. At times the offers have been ignored by our officials who don't like the idea of the US being on the receiving end. Your feelings about this are common, but misguided. Another thing to be aware of is that when there is a disaster in another country the total of the damage is only barely touched by all external aid, and what comes from within the country [except for the poorest countries] dwarfs what is coming in from abroad. One reason we think we make such a huge difference is that our news will show a US medical team doing some work, but fail to mention the local medical teams who have been there for days and will stay for weeks or months. That is not newsworthy here. BillR
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LarryT Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 9:46 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Supreme Court upholds gun rights Clay wrote <<With rising fuel and food costs, we will be strapped to respond to future disasters. And other nations will be in much the same limited position to respond>> It's well documented when the US helps other countries when tragedy strikes - When do other countries help the US? SPeaking of Katrina - the mayor and sheriff decided no one should have guns except them - they started disarming the very people who were not causing problems - while gangs of criminals roamed the streets robbing and looting the police turned the other way and went after 80 yr old women with a small handgun. Naturally some very wealthy people had their own security - they got to keep their guns The gun owners had to go to court to demand their guns back - the mayor ignored the court order for months - then came up with onerous reqmnts for the owners to prove ownership. Seeing a 280# marshall jumping a old lady and knocking her to the ground - so they could disarm her was a great move for *pro* gun people! It showed the true agenda of those who wish to ban guns - like obama. Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs ----- Original Message ----- From: "Redghost" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 6:06 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Supreme Court upholds gun rights >I disagree about just how close to chaos we find ourselves. This > thin veneer of civilization will be swept away quicker than any of us > suspects and those armed and willing to protect will be in the best > position to prosper. > > The midwest flooding, as well as Katrina could well have been far > worse had there not been a fully functional society able to send in > assistance. With rising fuel and food costs, we will be strapped to > respond to future disasters. And other nations will be in much the > same limited position to respond, resulting in our great nation > becoming a second world country for lack of infrastructure. > > At this point, it will be good to have an option to protect oneself > when police no longer are willing or able to respond. I would much > prefer to quickly resolve violence against my family or person with > something more stout than a garden rake. > > clay > > > > > On 27 Jun 2008, at 14:33, R A Bennell wrote: > >> Hey Larry, I hope you are never shot by a citizen who believes that >> he or she is defending him or herself or his or >> her country. I suggest that the times now are a whole lot different >> than they were when the constitution was >> written and most folks in your fine country would now be a whole >> lot better off is they did not need to worry about >> the number of hand guns out there. >> >> Randy >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of LarryT >> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 2:59 PM >> To: Mercedes Discussion List >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Supreme Court upholds gun rights >> >> >> The upsetting thing is this should have been a 9-0 decision. >> Instead we >> have a politically driven decision along party lines. If they had >> done the >> research of looking to see what the forefathers had *intended* >> there should >> have been no question about an individual right. >> >> They made no secret of what their opinions were - they wanted >> all peole >> to have access to guns to defend themselves and their country. >> >> The SCOTUS no longer analyzes the Constitution and determines >> Constitutionality - they vote along party lines -- >> >> But I guess this is nothing new - Is it? When did they lose their >> objectivity? >> >> Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) >> www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts >> Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil >> PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net >> 800-583-8601 >> Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Donald Snook" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <mercedes@okiebenz.com> >> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 10:51 AM >> Subject: [MBZ] OT Supreme Court upholds gun rights >> >> >>> http://www.supremecourtus.gov/opinions/07pdf/07-290.pdf >>> >>> It's a long decision (157 pages) >>> >>> The Court held (among other things) that >>> >>> 1. The Second Amendment protects an individuals right to possess a >>> firearm >>> unconnected to service in a militia >>> >>> 2. Like most rights, the right to bear arms is not unlimited >>> >>> 3. The handgun ban and the trigger lock requirement violate the >>> second >>> Amendment i.e. D.C.'s total ban on handguns in the home, violates the >>> Second Amendment. >>> >>> Donald H. 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