Yes, the US helps in disasters worldwide, though our giving per capita is
quite low compared to many others  I don't remember the figures anymore, but
I think we are among the lowest of the developed countries.  When disasters
occur here millions of dollars and goods are donated by other countries.
The company I worked for was responsible for receiving  some of it, the rest
was sent to or offered to our government. At times the offers have been
ignored by our officials who don't like the idea of the US being on the
receiving end.  Your feelings about this are common, but misguided.  Another
thing to be aware of is that when there is a disaster in another country the
total of the damage is only barely touched by all external aid, and what
comes from within the country [except for the poorest countries] dwarfs what
is coming in from abroad.  One reason we think we make such a huge
difference is that our news will show a US medical team doing some work, but
fail to mention the local medical teams who have been there for days and
will stay for weeks or months.  That is not newsworthy here.
BillR  

-----Original Message-----
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Clay wrote <<With rising fuel and food costs, we will be strapped to
respond to future disasters.   And other nations will be in much the
same limited position to respond>>

It's well documented when the US helps other countries when tragedy 
strikes -

When do other countries help the US?

SPeaking of Katrina - the  mayor and sheriff decided no one should have guns

except them - they started disarming the very people who were not causing 
problems  - while gangs of criminals roamed the streets robbing and looting 
the police turned the other way and went after 80 yr old women with a small 
handgun.  Naturally some very wealthy people had their own security - they 
got to keep their guns

The gun owners had to go to court to demand their guns back - the mayor 
ignored the court order for months - then came up with onerous reqmnts for 
the owners to prove ownership.

Seeing a 280# marshall jumping a old lady and knocking her to the ground - 
so they could disarm her was a great move for *pro* gun people!  It showed 
the true agenda of those who wish to ban guns - like obama.

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Redghost" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 6:06 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Supreme Court upholds gun rights


>I disagree about just how close to chaos we find ourselves.   This
> thin veneer of civilization will be swept away quicker than any of us
> suspects and those armed and willing to protect will be in the best
> position to prosper.
>
> The midwest flooding, as well as Katrina could well have been far
> worse had there not been a fully functional society able to send in
> assistance.   With rising fuel and food costs, we will be strapped to
> respond to future disasters.   And other nations will be in much the
> same limited position to respond, resulting in our great nation
> becoming a second world country for lack of infrastructure.
>
> At this point, it will be good to have an option to protect oneself
> when police no longer are willing or able to respond.    I would much
> prefer to quickly resolve violence against my family or person with
> something more stout than a garden rake.
>
> clay
>
>
>
>
> On 27 Jun 2008, at 14:33, R A Bennell wrote:
>
>> Hey Larry, I hope you are never shot by a citizen who believes that
>> he or she is defending him or herself or his or
>> her country. I suggest that the times now are a whole lot different
>> than they were when the constitution was
>> written and most folks in your fine country would now be a whole
>> lot better off is they did not need to worry about
>> the number of hand guns out there.
>>
>> Randy
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of LarryT
>> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 2:59 PM
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Supreme Court upholds gun rights
>>
>>
>>     The upsetting thing is this should have been a 9-0 decision.
>> Instead we
>> have a politically driven decision along party lines.  If they had
>> done the
>> research of looking to see what the forefathers had *intended*
>> there should
>> have been no question about an individual right.
>>
>>     They made no secret of what their opinions were - they wanted
>> all peole
>> to have access to guns to defend themselves and their country.
>>
>>     The SCOTUS no longer analyzes the Constitution and determines
>> Constitutionality - they vote along party lines --
>>
>>     But I guess this is nothing new - Is it?  When did they lose their
>> objectivity?
>>
>> Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D)
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>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Donald Snook" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 10:51 AM
>> Subject: [MBZ] OT Supreme Court upholds gun rights
>>
>>
>>> http://www.supremecourtus.gov/opinions/07pdf/07-290.pdf
>>>
>>> It's a long decision (157 pages)
>>>
>>> The Court held (among other things) that
>>>
>>> 1. The Second Amendment protects an individuals right to possess a
>>> firearm
>>> unconnected to service in a militia
>>>
>>> 2. Like most rights, the right to bear arms is not unlimited
>>>
>>> 3.  The handgun ban and the trigger lock requirement violate the
>>> second
>>> Amendment i.e. D.C.'s total ban on handguns in the home, violates the
>>> Second Amendment.
>>>
>>> Donald H. Snook
>>>
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