On 12/11/14, micah <[email protected]> wrote: > Jacob Appelbaum <[email protected]> writes: > >> A digital signature is binding. A lack of a digital signature on a >> text file certainly leaves room for assertion of tampering and of >> repudiation of the statements contained in the text file. As I >> understand the legal case in Denmark, at least one of the two people >> in Anakata's case declared denied the contents of what appears to be a >> logged OTR conversation. If they had used PGP encrypted/signed mails, >> I think the prosecution would have made a very strong argument about >> PGP signatures. >> >> Does that count as a reference to case law? I've requested transcripts >> of the trial but after over a month of waiting, I'm not sure when they >> will be delivered. > > Maybe I'm misunderstanding which case you are referring to, but as far > as I understood it Anakata, and JLT were both found guilty. Anakata has > been sentenced to 3.5 years in jail. JLT, who has already served 17 > months of pre-trial detention, was released.
I am referencing both cases in Sweden and in Denmark as a recent example of an OTR chat being cited in court. What you said is correct - though the specifics aren't really correct. JLT was not found guilty of anything in the original indictment - he was later found guilty, as I understand it, of having sent a link to public information to an unknown party. > > What I read was that the prosecution managed to present the evidence (a > chat between “Advanced Persistent Terrorist Threat” and “My Evil Twin”, > which were linked to the Anakata and JLT by the prosecution). The judges > and the jurors supported these conclusions and rendered guilty verdicts > as a result. > Could you show me the document that conclusively ties each person to each of those nyms? My understanding is that this was not concluded in court. > Was there some other specific part of this case where these chat logs > were brought as evidence by the prosecution, but then were successfully > argued as inadmissible evidence by the defense, with the judges/jury > accepting that argument? I believe that both stated that there was log tampering. I'm not completely clear on all of the details as I lack access to the full transcripts. In any case, they were one juror away from full acquittal. In Sweden, Anakata was partially acquitted. All the best, Jacob _______________________________________________ Messaging mailing list [email protected] https://moderncrypto.org/mailman/listinfo/messaging
