an invitation to Chromium & Firefox, & at least a reply from Chromium!
http://groups.google.com/group/chromium-dev/t/2ce5e33a1689c379 http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.dev.platform/browse_thread/thread/7bc5ab6629b0184d# 2008/12/16 Anthony Bryan <[email protected]>: > thanks Bram! I don't know where efforts should best be focused. > > as you (kindly) put it, few people are asking for help using metalinks > on their sites. sounds like an education/PR/marketing problem. > > I mean you patched Bouncer, what almost 2 yrs ago?! but they didn't > use it. if the code is there, but unused, that's a shame. we are only > trying to help them. > > one thing we've talked about is spreading the word at conferences. you > gave a lightning talk at FOSDEM a few yrs ago. do you think it's worth > it for someone (not necessarily you) to try to go back? do you think > there would be a better reception now? > > http://www.fosdem.org/2009/call_for_lightningtalks 2008-12-26: > Deadline for lightning talk requests > > back on the browser front, I heard from Paweł Hajdan jr who is the > first person from the Google Chrome community with commit access. > Paweł said that he would help address issues during review or > committing process if we contribute patches adding metalink support. > he isn't able to do patches right now. also, the extension mechanism > is in progress. this could be nice, but we really want basic metalink > support in Chrome natively to reach the most people. > > > > On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 11:34 AM, Bram Neijt <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Well, I personally think that more support from sites would help allot. >> One problem is, however, trying to get the sites to create them. >> >> It is almost trivial to create a library, function or patch that creates >> them, but getting them to be used is the hard part. >> >> If needed, I could write a bouncer like system completely in javascript >> on the client side: >> - AJAX the metalink >> - Check time zone of local user against country timezones >> - Randomly select from 5 nearest servers >> >> All of that would probably work great and you could also just show a >> sorted list of nearest servers: all sorting, thinking and matching can >> be done on the client side. >> >> The problem however, is to find somebody who would be willing to use my >> code or with a specific place to put it. I'd love to see some admins >> coming forth and telling me: I'm using Django/PHP/Python/Javascript and >> would like to incorporate metalinks into my download page, can you guys >> help me with some code to do that? >> >> Now implementing it on the browser side, without a separate client, >> seems much harder. Although an algorithm to select a single link from a >> metalink is easily created, it won't solve the problem of possible >> failures or repeats. As far as I have been able to gather from Firefox >> and Chrome is that there isn't anything that does this: if a download >> fails it just fails and shows the user it failed. Adding a metalink >> payload to the download seems difficult without some real structural >> changes to the download managers of the browsers :S. >> >> So with what little time I have left, I'll help pushing on the server >> side as much as possible. >> >> Bram >> >> >> On Wed, 2008-12-10 at 02:37 -0500, Anthony Bryan wrote: >>> we've accomplished a lot, but without support in browsers, even the >>> ones w/ less users, we haven't really reached some of the people who >>> need metalink's features the most. they will never install plugins or >>> external download managers. >>> >>> so far, we have TheWorld browser. this is a great start, but we need more. >>> >>> Opera, Safari, Google Chrome, & Firefox would all be great to have on board >>> what's holding them back? not enough sites? why aren't more sites >>> using it? almost no browser support :) >>> >>> what can we do to speed things up? >>> >>> we have bounties for the open source browsers, Chrome & Firefox, & >>> they're both waiting for someone to submit patches. >>> >>> Shawn Wilsher, in charge of Firefox's download manager code, is at >>> least thinking about it: >>> "Here's what I'm thinking the right approach to do this properly goes >>> something like the following. Note that for coming up with this, I'm >>> basically thinking how we could implement metalink downloads in an addon. " >>> [1] >>> >>> http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=4944688? >>> >>> http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=152871 >>> >>> http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=1751 >>> >>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=331979 >>> >>> [1] >>> http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.dev.platform/browse_thread/thread/9247f53da4527422# >> >> >> >> >> > > > > -- > (( Anthony Bryan ... Metalink [ http://www.metalinker.org ] > )) Easier, More Reliable, Self Healing Downloads > -- (( Anthony Bryan ... Metalink [ http://www.metalinker.org ] )) Easier, More Reliable, Self Healing Downloads --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Metalink Discussion" group. 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