some favorable comments from Mozilla/Firefox http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.community.web-standards/topics
2009/7/14 Anthony Bryan <[email protected]>: > an invitation to Chromium & Firefox, & at least a reply from Chromium! > > http://groups.google.com/group/chromium-dev/t/2ce5e33a1689c379 > > http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.dev.platform/browse_thread/thread/7bc5ab6629b0184d# > > 2008/12/16 Anthony Bryan <[email protected]>: >> thanks Bram! I don't know where efforts should best be focused. >> >> as you (kindly) put it, few people are asking for help using metalinks >> on their sites. sounds like an education/PR/marketing problem. >> >> I mean you patched Bouncer, what almost 2 yrs ago?! but they didn't >> use it. if the code is there, but unused, that's a shame. we are only >> trying to help them. >> >> one thing we've talked about is spreading the word at conferences. you >> gave a lightning talk at FOSDEM a few yrs ago. do you think it's worth >> it for someone (not necessarily you) to try to go back? do you think >> there would be a better reception now? >> >> http://www.fosdem.org/2009/call_for_lightningtalks 2008-12-26: >> Deadline for lightning talk requests >> >> back on the browser front, I heard from Paweł Hajdan jr who is the >> first person from the Google Chrome community with commit access. >> Paweł said that he would help address issues during review or >> committing process if we contribute patches adding metalink support. >> he isn't able to do patches right now. also, the extension mechanism >> is in progress. this could be nice, but we really want basic metalink >> support in Chrome natively to reach the most people. >> >> >> >> On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 11:34 AM, Bram Neijt <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Well, I personally think that more support from sites would help allot. >>> One problem is, however, trying to get the sites to create them. >>> >>> It is almost trivial to create a library, function or patch that creates >>> them, but getting them to be used is the hard part. >>> >>> If needed, I could write a bouncer like system completely in javascript >>> on the client side: >>> - AJAX the metalink >>> - Check time zone of local user against country timezones >>> - Randomly select from 5 nearest servers >>> >>> All of that would probably work great and you could also just show a >>> sorted list of nearest servers: all sorting, thinking and matching can >>> be done on the client side. >>> >>> The problem however, is to find somebody who would be willing to use my >>> code or with a specific place to put it. I'd love to see some admins >>> coming forth and telling me: I'm using Django/PHP/Python/Javascript and >>> would like to incorporate metalinks into my download page, can you guys >>> help me with some code to do that? >>> >>> Now implementing it on the browser side, without a separate client, >>> seems much harder. Although an algorithm to select a single link from a >>> metalink is easily created, it won't solve the problem of possible >>> failures or repeats. As far as I have been able to gather from Firefox >>> and Chrome is that there isn't anything that does this: if a download >>> fails it just fails and shows the user it failed. Adding a metalink >>> payload to the download seems difficult without some real structural >>> changes to the download managers of the browsers :S. >>> >>> So with what little time I have left, I'll help pushing on the server >>> side as much as possible. >>> >>> Bram >>> >>> >>> On Wed, 2008-12-10 at 02:37 -0500, Anthony Bryan wrote: >>>> we've accomplished a lot, but without support in browsers, even the >>>> ones w/ less users, we haven't really reached some of the people who >>>> need metalink's features the most. they will never install plugins or >>>> external download managers. >>>> >>>> so far, we have TheWorld browser. this is a great start, but we need more. >>>> >>>> Opera, Safari, Google Chrome, & Firefox would all be great to have on board >>>> what's holding them back? not enough sites? why aren't more sites >>>> using it? almost no browser support :) >>>> >>>> what can we do to speed things up? >>>> >>>> we have bounties for the open source browsers, Chrome & Firefox, & >>>> they're both waiting for someone to submit patches. >>>> >>>> Shawn Wilsher, in charge of Firefox's download manager code, is at >>>> least thinking about it: >>>> "Here's what I'm thinking the right approach to do this properly goes >>>> something like the following. Note that for coming up with this, I'm >>>> basically thinking how we could implement metalink downloads in an addon. >>>> " [1] >>>> >>>> http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=4944688? >>>> >>>> http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=152871 >>>> >>>> http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=1751 >>>> >>>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=331979 >>>> >>>> [1] >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.dev.platform/browse_thread/thread/9247f53da4527422# >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> (( Anthony Bryan ... Metalink [ http://www.metalinker.org ] >> )) Easier, More Reliable, Self Healing Downloads >> > > > > -- > (( Anthony Bryan ... Metalink [ http://www.metalinker.org ] > )) Easier, More Reliable, Self Healing Downloads > -- (( Anthony Bryan ... 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