The `=` sign here is set.mm's biconditional `<->`and we would probably
count it as a second operation, which needs to be defined, etc.

But maybe could encode it into two Metamath axioms:

${
    ax-1.1 $e |- ((p·q)·r)·(p·((p·r)·p))
    ax-1 $a |- r
$}

and

${
    ax-2.1 $e |- r
    ax-2 $a |- ((p·q)·r)·(p·((p·r)·p))
$}

_
Thierry


On 06/06/2024 11:06, Gino Giotto wrote:
> There are propositional systems with even smaller axioms, but those
systems are not even based on modus ponens, e.g.:
https://writings.stephenwolfram.com/2018/11/logic-explainability-and-the-future-of-understanding/.

So this is the linked single NAND axiom for propositional calculus by
Stephen Wolfram:

((p·q)·r)·(p·((p·r)·p))=r

My question is: how would this translate into Metamath? The set.mm
<http://set.mm> database does not introduce the primitive "=" symbol
until ax-6, so we are not allowed to use its properties at that stage.
Given how Metamath works, my guess is that you'll need more than one
"$a |-" statement anyway.

Il Gio 6 Giu 2024, 03:32 [email protected]
<[email protected]> ha scritto:

    Meredith's axiom under
    https://us.metamath.org/mpeuni/meredith.html is a minimal axiom
    (one out of seven) in the Hilbert system with operators {→,¬} and
    modus ponens.

    Since 2021, assuming general correctness of Walsh's and Fitelson's
    paper <http://fitelson.org/walsh.pdf> (which is still declared as
    under review), it has been proven by exhaustive search that it is
    indeed not only smallest-known, but minimal.

    In contrast, https://us.metamath.org/mpeuni/merco1.html is a
    minimal axiom in the Hilbert system with operators { →, ⊥} and
    modus ponens.


    Such things always depend on which operators and rule(s) of
    inference are allowed. There are propositional systems with even
    smaller axioms, but those systems are not even based on modus
    ponens, e.g.:
    
https://writings.stephenwolfram.com/2018/11/logic-explainability-and-the-future-of-understanding/.
    (Note that all systems based on modus ponens must have formulas
    written in terms of →.)

    I am researching systems of minimal axioms in terms of {→,¬} with
    open access at https://github.com/xamidi/pmGenerator/discussions/2
    in case you are interested — you could even contribute to the
    project. On the project's main page
    <https://github.com/xamidi/pmGenerator> I also wrote a few things
    about Metamath's propositional system of set.mm <http://set.mm>,
    which I called "Frege's calculus simplified by Łukasiewicz" due to
    its origin, and I used it as a default system for my tool.



    [email protected] schrieb am Donnerstag, 6. Juni 2024 um
    02:37:03 UTC+2:

        In the discussion below, Samiro mentioned ~ retbwax1, which
        got me looking at
        ~ meredith and friends:
        
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/metamath/bc1cdba2626540ad8582917ddcec4d74%40rwth-aachen.de


        The comment in ~ meredith mentions that it's "thought to be
        the shortest
        possible axiom for propositional calculus", but then ~ merco1
        and ~ merco2 go
        on to show ones that appear shorter. Does the ~ meredith
        comment still apply,
        and if so how is length of an axiom defined in this game?

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