`Disj_ x e. A B` is about disjointness of an *indexed family* of sets B(x),
where x ranges over the index set A. It says that if B(x) and B(y) share a
common element, then x = y. This is a stronger notion than disjointness of
a set of sets, which is what your _disj_ does, since here you can conclude
only that if B(x) and B(y) share a common element then B(x) = B(y). For
example, a family of empty sets of any cardinality is a disjoint family,
and a family of sets x e. A |-> { 0 } is disjoint if and only if A has at
most one element. You cannot express the latter theorem using _disj_,
because if you try to convert the indexed family into a set of sets you
just get { { 0 } } (or (/) if A is empty) which is a disjoint family of
sets.

Conversely, you can define _disj_ in terms of Disj_ though: _disj_ A <->
Disj x e. A x .

On Sat, Dec 14, 2024 at 8:57 PM 'Peter Dolland' via Metamath <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Can anybody help me to understand the definition of Disjointness:
>
>      df-disj $a |- ( Disj_ x e. A B <-> A. y E* x e. A y e. B ) $.
>
> ? What means x, A, and B  here?
>
> What about my alternative definition as 1-ary predicate:
>
> _disj_ A <-> A. B e. A A. C e. A ( B = C \/ B i^i C = (/) )
>
> ? Would it be provable:
>
> $p _disj_ A <-> Disj_ x e. A B $= ? $.
>
> ?
>
> Thank you for your help!
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