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On 4/10/06, patricia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Também ajuda ter uma estimativa de custos por ano, como eles colocam ali...
> o Meta tem? Quanto pensamos em pagar de aluguel no novo esporo? Temos
> contribuições para sustentar? Vez em quando vejo Felipe pedindo ajuda para
> pagar R$ 50,00 por mês a algum servidor...
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> From: "Felipe Fonseca" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Lista do projeto MetaReciclagem" <metarec@colab.info>
> Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 11:18 AM
> Subject: Re: [MetaReciclagem] Austrian Metalab
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> Pois é. Deixa tudo mais fácil. É não ter vergonha de
> precisar de uns trocados. Não ter vergonha de
> assumir que não se vive de mesada.
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> Temos muito que amadurecer...
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> On 4/10/06, Stalker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > }Adoro esse despudor calvinista quando os gringos falam de grana... {
> >
> > )Também ajuda bastante ter mais acesso a ela, hehehehe!(
> >
> > Ian wrote:
> > > After two years of preparation, we're finally starting the Austrian
>
> > > Metalab (http://metalab.at/). The Metalab is an open space for creative
> > > technology enthusiasts from all kinds of fields. We're trying to fill
> > > an
> > > existing demand, because in Vienna there are no good venues for many of
> > > the local clubs and groups to meet, and work on their projects.
> > >
> > > We're planning to be an innovation center, in the sense that creative
> > > people like you'd meet at the ccc congress, can work on their projects
> > > here together, and organize workshops, and everything else they'd want
> > > to do.
> > >
> > > We plan to have things happen here that range from p2p coding projects,
> > > over discussions about and development of social software, debian
> > > vienna
> > > (debienne) meetings to open hardware construction, and conferences.
> > > Also
> > > we already have a lot of hardware-building tools, like CNC cutters,
> > > that
> > > we'd like to make accessible to the general public, and e.g. the local
> > > robot hobbyists are planning to build their robots here.
> > >
> > > Whilst Public Netbase, which many of you might have known, managed to
> > > fill the gap for parts of the scene (especially netart) for years, it
> > > never really reached strongly into the more technically focused hacker
> > > scenes, which up to now mostly meet in pubs. So while there is enough
> > > similarity, to make the comparison unavoidable, there is not too much
> > > overlap in the people interested. I think we're catering to a different
> > > crowd. Sadly Netbase closed last month after their operation in the
> > > multiple hundred thousand euros became unsustainable.
> > >
> > > In comparison to netbase, we're a fairly low-budget operation: We're
> > > focusing on providing great infrastructure for existing communities and
> > > clubs, and try to provide a setting in which great things can happen.
> > > We're committed to operate the infrastructure strictly using honorary
> > > work by members, and are planning to release our software
> > > infrastructure
> > > and documentation as packages to be reused by, and developed together
> > > with similar projects around the world.
> > >
> > > Right now we have over 130 Wiki Users, 160 Mailinglist Subscribers and
> > > 50 paying members, and were the strongest contestant in a community
> > > voting for NetCulture Infrastructure Grants with 170 participants this
> > > week.
> > >
> > > For the first year we already have commitments for 12000€ from members,
> > > 6800€ from 4 sponsors, and 10000€ from the city netculture grant (which
> > > is the upper limit in this year's new netculture funding system), which
> > > brings our total capacity for year 1 to 28800€. Our expected annual
> > > costs for rent and operating costs should be at about 26400€.
> > >
> > > So normally this would suffice to secure operations, especially with
> > > expected membership growth, and the sale of beverages to members and
> > > guests.
> > >
> > > But in the first year we have a need for additional resources, to be
> > > able to get our location. We're short about 8000€ in the first year,
> > > which directly goes into deposit and commission. We're aiming to move
> > > to
> > > a mostly self-financed mode of operation by the second year.
> > >
> > > We've decided yesterday by a 22 to 1 (2 abstain) vote, that we're going
> > > to start without these funds, in the expectation that with a running
> > > operation, it will be easier to acquire additional funds, and that if
> > > we
> > > don't start soon, and pass the chance on this ideal location, we'll
> > > lose
> > > the necessary momentum in the community for this to actually take off.
> > >
> > > There's a lot of risk in that, and that's why i'd like to ask this list
> > > for advice. I know many of you have experience in similar endeavors,
> > > and
> > > plugging the holes in the budgets of NGOs.
> > >
> > > So i'd really like to hear your advice.
> > >
> > > Also more specifically, i'm interested in pointers to any international
> > > funders (or local ones) that you think might be worth applying to.
> > > 8000€
> > > is not a lot of money, and i think that we'd be able to do a lot of
> > > good
> > > things, once we get this thing running.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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