I always thought that if it was in space it was called a meteoroid. When it
hit the atmosphere , it was called a meteor. When it hit the ground, it was
called a meteorite.

Rosie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Grossman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 6:21 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Appropriate terminology?


> Frank, etc.,
>
> Nope.  You didn't understand all of what I said.  The first part is
> right:  we don't care if there was a meteor or whether the body doing the
> accreting had no atmosphere.  Once the impactor survives landing, it
> becomes a meteorite.  If it becomes incorporated into a rock as a
xenolith,
> it is still a meteorite (e.g., Brunflo and the Osterplana "fossil"
> meteorites found in earth rocks, and).  BUT, if the rock containing the
> clast itself becomes a meteorite by being ejected from its parent body and
> landing somewhere else, then the clast is no longer a meteorite... it's
> just a clast in a meteorite.
>
> We had to adopt this complex rule because otherwise we'd have to give a
> meteorite name to every asteroidal xenolith found in an asteroidal
meteorite.
>
> The second part of your question should have been phrased:
>
> "On another note, I was wondering what, if any, differences might be
expected
> in the fusion crusts on meteorites found on Mars as compared to meteorites
> found on Earth?" (remember, the former are NOT martian meteorites).  My
> answer is, I don't know.
>
> jeff
>
> At 04:32 PM 1/15/2003, you wrote:
> >Hi Jeff and all,
> >
> >In other words, if I correctly understand this, on another moon, asteroid
or
> >airless planet, the part of a meteoroid that survives impact on another
body
> >becomes a meteorite without an intervening "meteor" stage; (unless of
> >course, it may have previously grazed an atmosphere ala the Gran Teton
> >fireball of the 1960's).  And once it becomes a lithified part of the
> >impacted body, it becomes only a "xenolithic" clast. Easy to understand
;-)
> >
> >On another note, I was wondering what, if any, differences might be
expected
> >in the fusion crusts on Martian meteorites (those found on Mars) as
compared
> >to meteorites found on Earth? Any one have any ideas?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Frank
> >
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: Jeff Grossman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 12:28 PM
> >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Appropriate terminology?
> >
> >
> > > Alan Rubin and I advocated calling all of these things "meteorites" no
> > > matter what body they were found on. Our definition was as follows,
> >quoting
> > > from the article:
> > >
> > > "A meteorite is a natural solid object that was transported by natural
> > > means from the body on which it formed to a region outside the
dominant
> > > gravitational influence of that body and was later accreted by a
natural
> > > body larger than itself."
> > >
> > > Our exception to this rule is: "Meteorites accreting to a body lose
their
> > > status as individual meteorites if the rocks into which they are
> > > incorporated subsequently become meteorites themselves."
> > >
> > > This means that a CM clast in an H chondrite that fell in Africa is
not
> > > itself a meteorite...  only the H chondrite is.  Hadley Rille and
Bench
> > > Crater ARE meteorites; however, had they been found as clasts in lunar
> > > meteorites, they would not be meteorites, and would not be given their
own
> > > names by the nomenclature committee.  Everybody follow this?  I
thought
> >not.
> > >
> > > All of these statements are the opinion of just Alan and myself.
There
> >are
> > > no widely accepted definitions of "meteorite."  But since nobody else
has
> > > ever tried to define the word like we did, I guess we get the last
word
> >for
> > > now.
> > >
> > > -jeff
> > >
>
> Dr. Jeffrey N. Grossman       phone: (703) 648-6184
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