Shame, Shame, Shame. Thomas Jefferson is rolling over in his grave, being a champion of alloidal ownership of (real) property. The Bavarians had it right when they established (1813) "_Nullum crimen, nulla poena sine praevia lege poenali_" and luckily internationally this is the precedent applied. So Mitchell should have given it away to a foreign collector and he would have been in the clear.

Besides the obvious connection to space traveling merchandise, this is of concern to all US collectors for understanding what the government can and can't regulate "ex-post facto".

Administrative Agencies such as NASA have the ability to distort retroactively the interpretation of the law, such as the present case with abandoned property - the camera - (vs. eminent domain for real property); The US Supreme Court, in setting a landmark precedent ruled in 1928:

"...The power to require readjustments for the past is drastic. [It may reasonably exist in cases where the particular rate has been approved by the Commission after full hearing;] it ought not to be extended so as to permit unreasonably harsh action without very plain words...."

BRIMSTONE R. & CANAL CO. v. UNITED STATES et. al., 276 US 104 (1928); 276 US 104
No. 240 Argued Oct. 10, 11, 1927; Decided Feb. 20, 1928.

Kindest wishes
Doug




-----Original Message-----
From: David R Childs <david.chil...@btinternet.com>
To: Steve Schoner <scho...@mybluelight.com>
Cc: Meteorite-list <Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Thu, Nov 3, 2011 7:07 am
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] OT: Astronaut Ed Mitchell surrenders DAC Camera


Shame on Nasa. To do this to a great man is a travesty.
I have left my comment on YouTube.

David R Childs
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Schoner" <scho...@mybluelight.com>
To: <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 7:22 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] OT: Astronaut Ed Mitchell surrenders DAC Camera




I know that this is off topic, but not really considering all the
valuable
data
that those brave Apollo Astronauts brought back for science.

And even today the rocks are being studied and the radionuclide's
detected
tell us the age and also the resources that we might obtain should
the
United States ever return and complete what we should have done
decades
ago. And in a way it does relate to our quest of and classification
of
lunar meteorites, without that data that they brought back,
comparisons
and identifications of lunar meteorites would be harder than they are
now.

The issue that bothers me is the fact that Dr. Ed Mitchell, sixth man
to
set foot on the Moon was sued by the United States Goverment for
having
and wanting to sell a DAC Camera that would otherwise have been
destroyed
on the Moon.

All Apollo Lunar Astronauts were given the incentive to retain items
from
the LM if they met weight requirements as per the Mission Commander's
approval at the time of the mission.

So for four decades he held on to this camera... Till he decided to
auction it in his now 80 years of life.

NASA and our Government then sued him for possession.  And under that
duress he
surrendered the camera.

This is a travesty, done to a great man, recipient of the Medal of
Freedom,  And
the lawsuit is a disgrace,,, Shame on NASA and our Government for
treating
him so.

So with that in mind I posted a video on Youtube with a call for
public
action to rectify this disgrace.

First see this one as background:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bttkWVERGVs

Then my video with a call for action:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AH3DtuH_-5s

Legal actions by our Government for seizure of such artifacts, due to
their loss of records affects all that have Apollo memorabilia.

And of the over 1000 members of this list there may be some that have
such
artifacts.

I have two Apollo artifacts that have no record of transfer.  One was
given to me by a personal friend Eugene Shoemaker, and the other I
won in
an Ebay auction.  Most true Apollo Mission artifacts that are being
bought,sold and auctioned are in the same category, no "records of
transfer."

It is events like this lawsuit against Ed Mitchell that really upsets
my
trust in our Government, which seems to be out of control... As if
there
are things more important than improving our economy and doing some
good
for all.

Steve

P.S. Hope I have not "taxed" anyone with my long OT post.

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