What if you are walking through the desert while looking to your left at
something and your right foot hits a rock and you stumble, then gather
yourself up and then see what caused your 'fall'.... Would that be an
unobserved trip over a fall, or you didn't observe what you stubbed your toe
on because you were trippin' on that weird plant to the left?! ;-)
Best Regards,
Greg
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-----Original Message-----
From: Anne Black
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 8:27 PM
To: h...@meteorhall.com ; m...@meteoriteguy.com
Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com ; valpar...@aol.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day
Every single meteorite ever found on Earth is necessarily the result of
a fall, they are not native to Earth. The only difference is that some
falls are seen, witnessed, and some, the vast majoriry, are not.
So calling them Observed or Unobserved falls is logical. That is what
happened to all of them.
That is simple reality.
Anne M. Black
www.IMPACTIKA.com
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tFrom: hall <h...@meteorhall.com>
To: Michael Farmer <m...@meteoriteguy.com>
Cc: meteorite-list <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>; valparint
<valpar...@aol.com>
Sent: Fri, Jan 4, 2013 6:13 pm
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day
An "unobserved fall" is two words to describe the one word that has
been used for a century, "Find". The one word "Find" is good enough for
the Catalogue of Meteorites, it was good enough for Harvey Nininger,
and it is what I shall always use. Keep it concise.
Regards, Fred Hall
That would make sense for say New Orleans, where a stone went through a
house and no one in their right mind would suggest that it did not
fall at
that time say between 8 am and 4 pm when there was no hole in the
house,
yet it was not seen to fall.
An old rock found in a field does not suggest anything about fall
date. So
it is a find, something never really argued against until now?
It has crust which can suggest it is not thousands of years old, most
of
our Springwater meteorites have black and blue crust but nevertheless
it
is a find.
Michael Farmer
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 4, 2013, at 10:28 AM, <valpar...@aol.com> wrote:
An "unobserved fall" is, well, a fall that was not observed, in
contradistinction to a fall that was observed. The terminology of the
Meteoritical Bulletin Database is "Observed fall: no".
The information being conveyed is NOT that the meteorite fell but
that
the fall was not observed.
In general, the questions about falling and finding are:
1) was the fall observed?
2) if so, when was it observed?
3) if not, is there any guesstimate of when it fell?
4) regardless of weather it was observed or not, when was it actually
found?
Paul Swartz
MPOD webmaster
What is an "unobserved fall"? Every meteorite fell at some point. I
have thousands of unobserved falls in my collection.
Michael Farmer
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