Hi Marcin,
I did not mean my reply to sound aggressive or personal towards you. I
have always liked you and never had a problem with you personally. I
just don't like Facebook (or Zuckerberg) and the increasing stagnation
of this fine mailing list is a direct result of social media sites
like FB siphoning away all of the online oxygen. Facebook seeks to
control information and discourse - a monolithic entity answerable to
nobody that exploits it's userbase as a resource to enrich itself. It
does this without regard to the collateral damage done to privacy or
civil rights. All the while, FB is doing nothing original or
innovative. Chatting, posting, groups, and every other functionality
of FB are things we can do elsewhere. We don't *need* Facebook. It
needs us.
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Nothing personaly ofcourse.
I completly dont understand Your point of view and negative approach. I
never saw any "control information" on FB except some "jail time" for some
persons for their political comments or radical posts. Even I was 24h banned
once but it was becouse of my comment under political post. So this was not
connected to our hobby. If You stay away from bullshit like political posts
You are safe. It was surprize for me but I completly agree with this "jail
time". It was lesson.
I tryed to show You how to use Facebook as very valuable, friendly platform
but seems You are too negavite to it. Sorry to see that. Its Your right, I
understand.
This List introduced me to the meteorite world. It brought me to the
dance, so to speak. And after many years of playing the social media
field, I have come back home to my high-school sweetheart, the
Met-List.
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me too, it was the best source of meteorite informations, sales, but it was
many many years ago. Its like Met Bull with classification info but without
photos of specimens. Its like telling that Radio auditions are better than
TV shows becouse in TV speaker is watching You. I cant agree becouse its up
on You how You use it. You dont have that controll watching TV or read
newspapers. You eat what they serve You there.
A lof of other collectors and dealers still congregate on FB and many
do quite well with sales. That's fine and I wish them success in what
works for them. I was one of the first handful of meteorite people to
become active on FB back in 2009 and now I am not the first to pack up
and leave that venue. I probably won't be the last. I've already
noticed that some List members are not very active on FB any more.
Maybe it's for the same reasons or they have their own reasons. But, I
think it's high time to get this mailing list rolling again. FB has
stolen the thunder for too long. The Met-List and FB don't have to be
mutually exclusive and both can co-exist. But, if Zuck and FB had
their way, venues like this mailing list would be trampled into
silence or absorbed into the Borg-like collective that is Facebook and
Amazon.
To each their own, but long live the List!
MikeG
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I still cant understand what Zuckenberg have to You reading my posts in
meteorite group about my new slices.
Sorry but this sounds like irrational bullshit to me. This is soo strange
that You have used FB before so what happend ?
Nothing personaly Michael.
-----[ MARCIN CIMALA ]----[ +48 793567667 ]-----
http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl
http://www.PolandMET.com marcin(at)polandmet.com
--------[ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ]--------
On 6/14/20, Marcin Cimała - POLANDMET <mar...@polandmet.com> wrote:
This is not a good point. You missing it.
Do You watch TV ? You choose TV program You want to watch. You buy
newspapers You think are worth Your money.
Same You do on facebook. You choose Your friends and groups You want to
watch for informations You want to see. Valuable for You. If they are
crap,
You leave groups, You unfriend stupid peoples the same as You turn to
another TV channel if they start comercials in the middle of movie or You
go
to another page if there is stupid article or not interesting for You.
You have Your smartphone and computer? They spies You even better than
cameras on the streets. Then why You think Facebook spies You better than
Your phone ? If You feel unfonfortable, sell all electronic devices, unpug
Your net cable, turn off wi-fi. No, You cant.
My understand of Facebook (I dont use any other social media) is that it
is
like TV. I watch only this channel that Im interested. Im in meteorite
groups, not all of them, just some, in my actual car group, in car that I
want to buy group, cats group, 3D printing groups, my photo camera groups.
Groups that are importand to me, same as I like to watch Discovery
channels,
National Geographin or history channels in TV but I dont watch news
channels
or some other crap things in TV.
Got it ? You still can have 0 friends on facebook and You can be in 3
valuable meteorite groups read all the news about them. What this will
tell
Zuckenberg about You ? That You like rocks. Is this something bad ? No I
dont think soo.
Think about this
-----[ MARCIN CIMALA ]----[ +48 793567667 ]-----
http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl
http://www.PolandMET.com marcin(at)polandmet.com
--------[ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ]--------
Hi Marcin and List,
Yes, the List has been quiet lately and part of that is because
Facebook is strangling other venues. I don't see that as a good thing.
This List is far more preferable (IMO) than an invasive venue that
spies on your every move, filters your feed with restrictive
algorithms, takes ownership of your content, and engages in behavior
that is destructive to civil discourse. I deleted my Facebook account
and couldn't be happier about it.
Starting very soon, I will doing my part to re-invigorate this List. I
will start posting regular updates with the latest Met Bulletin
approvals and other content that I used to waste on Facebook.
Screw Facebook and Zuckerberg.
Best regards,
MikeG
On 6/14/20, Marcin Cimala - POLANDMET via Meteorite-list
<meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
Hello list
I see there is only discusion about Pictures of the day :) Is this list
dead
?
Come to the Facebook peoples, it dont bite. Meteorite group, Polandmet
Meteorites group and many other very valuable groups with alot info
about
meteorites and thousand of users.
I have started in Meteorites group discusion that every new
classification
should include few photos of specimen. Not in Encyclopedia of Meteorites
but
reference photos submited with classification and provided by
specimen/main
mass holder.
When Im sending type specimen to the lab I also need to send them few
photos
of entire mass wirth scale cube and also photo of cut surface, slice.
This
will give every meteorite his "face", idea what is NWA 12123214 and if
slice
I just bough look like reference photo.
Every time there is Met Bull update there are many rare specimens but
they
stay only as number. Sometimes we can find them on ebay or search name
in
Google we can find specimens in someone website. But this really should
look
like that ? We have 2020, every morocan in the desert have now
smartphone
with high quality camera. I get their photos every hour. Photos of
incredible specimen. But they can be seen only by few of us. Why not for
everyone and forever? Most dealers who submit big ammount of specimens
in
Met Bull sell online so it is not a problem to require some
representative
photos of specimen or the biggest mass. You dont have good camera ?
Whats
the problem? You can find 10 friends with Canon, Nikon or new Iphone to
prepare requested pictures the same as You collect all requested
informations about Your specimen like date of find, TKW, place of find
etc.
I realy dont see a problem. This need only some discusion and some good
will
-----[ MARCIN CIMALA ]----[ +48 793567667 ]-----
http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl
http://www.PolandMET.com marcin(at)polandmet.com
--------[ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ]--------
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