is there really any need for this?
let's be realistic here for a moment.
sure an nwa number is assigned to specific fragments you reported - but if the same EXTRAORDINARILY rare material is comming out of the same location, being purchased from the same nomads (either by you, Habibi, or the French) - then assigning each parcel that a dealer gets a new nwa number seems nothing more than down right silly. all this serves to do is keep TKW's down via artifical means...
look at the TKW of nwa1929. what is it, 900g? whats the REAL tkw, 15kg or so?
if you bought a big allende from the field tomorrow are you going to send it in as a possibly paired, new find and ask it to be assigned the name allende(x)?
From: "Adam Hupe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Comcast Mail" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 1110 issues Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2004 19:20:33 -0700
Dear Bob,
What you are doing is nothing short of fraud. All of the fragments that make up NWA 1110 weigh 118 grams and every piece was authenticated by Dr, Irving. Anything not pictured on this web-site link is not NWA 1110, plain and simple.
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/snc/nwa1110.html
Nelson's pieces are paired to NWA 1068. NWA 1110 is also paired to NWA
1068, as well. Pairing to a pairing is ridiculous, submit your own type
sample, claim the extra weight and get your own number. The set of NWA1110
pairings weigh exactly 118 grams, that's official, not a gram more. If you
do not believe me ask the NomCom for the rules because it is not up to me to
educate you. It is simple, send in a type specimen and have every crumb you
sell looked at by a planetary scientist and I will acknowledge them by their
new NWA number which will not be NWA 1110. Any dealer in the know should
already know this. If you continue using NWA 1110 I will report it. This
is not interference with an auction.
Regards,
Adam
----- Original Message ----- From: "Comcast Mail" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Meteorite list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Adam Hupe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 7:09 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 1110 issues
> Adam,
>
> Im not sure what the pictures you provided were meant to prove, other than
> you like taking pictures of nomads playing in the sand. Why weren't you or
> Greg in the photo? Just curious
>
>
> The Nwa 1110 that I am selling on ebay is the same meteorite that Nelson
> Oakes is selling on his website. Are you calling him a fraud too?
>
> Adam, do you have a problem with healthy competition? I certainly believe
> you do.
> Is it really any mystery why Mike Farmer despises you? You certainly made
> many accusations against him. And of course you couldn't prove any of
them.
> My point is ...... you havent seen the meteorite that Im selling so please
> keep your opinions to yourself.
>
> Were you ever physically at the NWA 1110 Strewnfield ? If so please show
> some real proof ( not pictures of nomads in the sand ). How do you really
> know that you got every specimen of NWA 1110 ?
> Please answer these questions, because I really do want to know.
>
> Please dont interfere with my auctions again. I have never done that to
you.
>
> Wishing everyone the best !
>
> Bob Evans
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Adam Hupe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 7:18 PM
> Subject: [meteorite-list] NWA 1110 issues
>
>
> > Dear List,
> >
> > It has come to my attention that some sellers are still using the NWA
1110
> > designation to sell there untested material. It is not a marketing ploy
> > that I bring this up as we are nearly out of stock and we start all of
our
> > true NWA 1110 auctions out at just 99 cents. Here are the problems:
> >
> > We had Dr. Irving at the University of Washington authenticate every
piece
> > we have ever sold or plan to sell. All of it is recorded at 118 grams
can
> > be seen at the JPL/NASA Martian web site. Other dealers selling NWA
1110
> > have not gone to this expense We have only supplied one dealer from
> Austria
> > with NWA 1110 and he is sold out.
> >
> > We paid the research and authentication costs associated with every
piece
> of
> > NWA 1110
> >
> > We deposited a type sample (something important if want your very own
NWA
> > number)
> >
> > We paid the cost to go into the field, monitored the recovery efforts
and
> > recorded GPS coordinates.
> >
> > Habibi of Morocco has been telling dealers he supplied us with NWA 1110
> and
> > so what he is selling is the same. This is not the truth as we do not
do
> > business with Habibi and never will. If you check the images below you
> will
> > see we went directly to the source and recorded GPS coordinates:
> >
> > http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa1110/nwa1110a.jpg
> >
> > http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa1110/nwa1110b.jpg
> >
> > http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa1110/nwa1110c.jpg
> >
> >
> > http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa1110/nwa1110d.jpg
> >
> > To see auctions like the one I linked to below really irritates us
because
> > no laboratory has tested this material, the dealer should deposit a type
> > specimen, pay the lab fees and get his very own NWA number so that every
> > gram of meteorites paired to NWA 1068 can be recorded if they are indeed
> > meteorites.
> >
> > This is what I would like to say to the person running this ebay auction
> > "Stop using NWA 1110, get a real number, put out some effort, there is
no
> > such thing as a free ride":
> >
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3239&item=2268561021
> >
> > Wishing everybody the best,
> >
> > Adam Hupe
> > The Hupe Collection
> > Team LunarRock
> > IMCA 2185
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
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