From: Brian Cox <searchingfor...@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Best ways to send payments from Canada
toMorocco
To: "Melanie Matthews" <spacewoman2...@hotmail.com>,
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Date: Friday, November 13, 2009, 2:39 PM
Hi Melanie,
I'm glad you are on top of this and that you are keeping in
touch with the seller. I'm glad he's mailing back your
postal money order. Hopefully the Moneyram will work out and
he'll accept it as he said and you'll get your new
meteorites.
I wish you all the best and hope that you receive some
really great and rare meteorites in the group.
Have a great day!
Brian
----- Original Message ----- From: "Melanie Matthews"
<spacewoman2...@hotmail.com>
To: "Brian Cox" <searchingfor...@sbcglobal.net>;
<meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 1:15 AM
Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Best ways to send payments
from Canada toMorocco
Hi Brian, listers.
Actually it was a postal money order that I
mailed out to him (Mr. Abdellah Afiniss), and yes it
included the cost
of the stones plus the shipping costs. I asked him to mail
it back to
me and he said he did.
Once I get the slip back I'm going to
get back the money I put onto it and re-send the payment to
him -
probably via Moneygram (which he told me he accepts).
At first offered me a lot total of 8.5 kgs of chondrites
(all
unclassified),, knowing full well I couldn't afford all
that I circled
some stones in Paint.net (free image editing program
similar to
MSPaint) that I wanted in the photographs, emailed back to
him and
kindly asked him to send me images of each meteorite I
picked sitting
on the scale to show their weights... I then worked out the
prices
until I made the final decition on buying five rocks
together weighing
837 grams..
As I said he has been very cooperative, and I thanks him
and I thank all here on the list for their
input/suggestions!
-----------
Melanie
IMCA: 2975
eBay: metmel2775
Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09
Unclassified meteorites are like a box of chocolates... you
never know what you're gonna get!
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From: searchingfor...@sbcglobal.net
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:56:13 -0600
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Best ways to send
payments from Canada to Morocco
Hello Melanie and list,
In regards to your question of sending payments to
Morocco, I have to ask a
couple of questions and others also mentioned they
weren't clear on your
question since you didn't seem to be including
shipping costs. I'd like to
help you out and I mean this in the most thoughtful
and kindest way
possible, so please don't take it negatively or have
any anger towards me.
Make sure you include shipping costs when you were
determining the total
amount of the payment you need to send to the seller
and then send a check
and then say you couldn't afford the FedEx shipping
costs if that is what
you agreed to buy from the seller? You have said this
in the past about not
having money to pay for something or to pay for the
shipping costs. It's
good to ask for help if you are not experienced in
sending payments outside
of Canada beyond Paypal. This sounds like you decided
to send a check for
the meteorites and then were going to decide about a
payment for the
"shipping" as a separate payment or to pay for
shipping later on. Is this
why you stated you couldn't afford the FedEx shipping
costs after you had
sent your personal Canadian paper check? This doesn't
sound right why you
wouldn't determine the full amount due to the seller
for the items with
shipping and or insurance and then send one payment
and later decide you
couldn't afford the shipping costs they gave you.
Also, you stated you sent a "Paper Check" which, as I
am thinking is a
"personal check" from your personal Canadian bank
account by what you wrote.
I'm confused to why would you think that a personal
check from your Canadian
bank account would be "valid" as you say, to a dealer
in Morocco, which I am
sure it is valid in Canada and you have money in your
account, but most
likely would not be accepted in Morocco or any other
country? You don't
often hear of dealers in Asia, Africa, Europe or for
the most part any
dealers in the U.S. or anywhere in North or South
America or Australia that
would accept a personal Paper check from a bank in a
different country,
although it may happen. A check from a Canadian bank
account or from a U.S.
bank account or any personal paper check from any
other country most likely
won't be accepted unless they verified with their bank
first that they could
accept that check. An example would be if there was
Citibank in Canada and
then Citibank in the U.S. would accept that check or
Citibank in England,
etc. .I'm sure if the check was from a bank that had a
branch in that
country that it would be accepted, but it usually
creates a hassle and is
time consuming to stand in line or through an ATM. As
several members
mentioned bank wire is the safest and then probably
FedEx payment, but
sending a paper check or money order isn't a good idea
as Gary mentioned.
I would like to offer a friendly suggestion to help
you out. Please make
sure you discuss all the facts and figures with any
dealer/collector
anywhere in the world before closing a deal. Remember
you are entering a
contract with this dealer, whether it is on ebay or
through their website or
through correspondence with the dealer. On ebay this
is stated as you are
entering a contract so be mindful of this. You need to
finalize all costs.
You need to get the full amount that you owe in
writing, email, etc. for the
meteorites and any insurance and shipping and then you
need to first discuss
the method of payment to that dealer before you send
any payment. I think
your first mistake here was that it sounds as if you
didn't determine the
full costs of the meteorites with shipping, then you
didn't ask the seller
if he or she would accept a "Personal Paper Check from
another country. I
think you will have much better luck and increase good
relations with
dealers through online sales, ebay and through the
different meteorite lists
you if you slow down and get the facts before making
purchases and payments.
As you have written on your posts the equivalent of
The Tom Hanks character
from the Forest Gump movie, "Life is like a box of
chocolates." You need
to stop and think that your eyes are bigger than your
stomach and stop and
think of what you are wanting to bid on or buy first
and how to pay for it.
There is an old saying in America that you may or may
not know in Canada.
"Your eyes are bigger than your stomach" which roughly
means you saw the
food on the menu and you ordered all that looked good
to eat, but your
stomach wasn't big enough to eat it all and you became
very full before you
could finish the meal. This is the same as the child
that fills their plate
up and can't eat it all at home. This also goes along
with shopping at the
store when you are hungry and buying too much, as in
buying more goodies
than you needed. In this case looking at meteorites
you want to buy and then
not carefully researching making a payment and then
feeling full of
frustration and aggravation at how to make the payment
or what road to go
down. I truly hope this helps in the future.
Have a great day!
Brian
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Best ways to send payments from Canada to Morocco
Hi list,
Please help - I mailed a payment to a Moroccan dealer
for a lot of
chondrites via a paper check, he got it today, but he
told me that the banks
over there don't recognize it even though it is
completely valid. I can't
afford the shipping costs through FedEx for the lot I
want - which will be
over $200 CND... so what other less expensive options
do you suggest?
Thank you in advance
-----------
Melanie
IMCA: 2975
eBay: metmel2775
Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09
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