Hi Dave, Exactly. If Chicago Steve is misrepresenting his freebies (or the ones that he sells), that could affect a lot of people's collections. This goes for everyone, not just Steve.
Bob -----Original Message----- From: Dave Gheesling [mailto:d...@fallingrocks.com] Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2009 9:27 PM To: 'Bob Loeffler'; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Steve Arnold (Elgin). Man of his word. Yes Bob. And if said allegations were true, then it would not be an individual who's integrity was diminished by accepting such freebies...but rather the integrity of his collection. Authenticity, provenance, integrity...absolutely paramount to this arena. Dave -----Original Message----- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Bob Loeffler Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2009 11:10 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Steve Arnold (Elgin). Man of his word. Hi GeoZay and others, >From what I've seen from Steve over the last 2 years (that's how long >I've been on the list), he has been a good, upstanding citizen of the Met list, although yes, he has waaaaaay too many ads. But, I have seen other e-mails on this list that say that he is a cheater. For example, maybe he has a met specimen that is one thing, but he says that it's something else (e.g. the labeling is incorrect). I have never seen this problem first hand from him, but I think that this is where the animosity on this list about him comes from. In other words, it's not just from the constant ads that he posts here. I got a free meteorite from him... and I'm grateful for that... but from what I've seen, maybe he isn't careful enough about what he is giving away or selling. I'm definitely not an expert, but when I got the freebie from him, the label was hand written (probably by him) and there is no way to know whether it was really what he said it was. He did not provide a real label from the original seller. I could sell you a Lunar without a label and there is no way for you to know if it's really a lunar or terrestrial or something else. Maybe he is the most reputable guy on this list, or maybe not. Whether he gives away lots of freebies or not doesn't matter. That could be a front to make him look good. Or, maybe he really is that nice of a guy. I don't know. There is a history that most of us don't know about. We are reminded of it every few months on this list. But, there are always a few people who say "he treated me well with freebies", but there are those who have been around long enough who might've been burned by Steve. I'm not saying that it actually happened, because I wasn't on this list back then, but... if it happened, then we shouldn't get in the middle of it because we weren't there when it happened. If someone was burned by him, they should let us know exactly what happened so we can be aware of it. Regards, Bob -----Original Message----- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of geo...@aol.com Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2009 6:06 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Steve Arnold (Elgin). Man of his word. >>??No, more like you think he is a great guy for giving you free >>crack. >> But he's not giving me crack...just a meteorite. The same thing you and most people on this list purchase. Are you actually saying that crack and meteorites are equally bad? >> Then after you loose your job, family and end up living on the >> streat, you realize there is no such thing as a freebie.<< I suppose some folks can lose their jobs for meteorite acquisitions, but I'm not sure how? I've had contact with Steven for at least 2 maybe 3 years now and he's never asked anything of me. Actually, almost all of our conversations have simply laid along the lines of making arrangements of him mailing me a freebie. >>All freebies come with a price.<< Postage? Actually, he usually pays for this as well. >> The question to be asked is what is the price? My integrity?<< I guess that's it...I lack integrity for accepting free meteorites from him. Dang...I must be a real threat to the dealers. :O) GeoZay ______________________________________________ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.717 / Virus Database: 270.14.115/2577 - Release Date: 12/20/09 00:35:00 ______________________________________________ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.717 / Virus Database: 270.14.115/2577 - Release Date: 12/20/09 00:35:00 ______________________________________________ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
