Hi all, those are nasty for sure. Two years ago down at Franconia I ran into this "little" guy. I was for sure spooked, and counted 10 rattles, which doesn't mean a whole lot, other than it's a big snake. Needless to say, I felt that those meteorites could wait another few months until cooler weather.
http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj224/JayrayNV/snake1jun08Franconia.jpg Jason On Nov 15, 2010, at 2:56 PM, Jan Bartels wrote: > Listoids, > > Besides meteorites we are also keepers and breeders of these nasty "worms" > for almost 30 years now. > Besides several Cobra species, Puffadders, Asian and African Bushvipers we > also have some Rattlers as well. Never got bitten until about 3 months back. > We had a nest of 7 babies, at least I thought so....number 8 showed itself > after removing the water bowl from their cage and got me right in one of my > fingers. When you think of a baby ratler produces less venom your way wrong!! > The thing is they still need to learn how to control the amount of venom > needed when hunting for prey. The adults may even give a "dry bite" many > times just to defend themselves and are more or less aware they need their > venom better to catch prey. I got a bite from an adult Diamond Back a few > years ago and nothing happened...... > > Believe me, when they stike and give you the full amount....you'll know!! > Immediately when that baby got me, my finger started swelling up. The pain > was unbaerable. When you feel the venom is pumped in your finger it feels > like a very hot local electric shock. > > After a few hours my arm turned all colors of the rainbow and at the end my > complete arm was swollen over 6 inches thicker than my other arm. > I ended up at the ICU with tubes sticking out from every hole in my body, > beeping monitors everywhere and needed 8 vails of antivenom with an even more > dangerous risk....not everybody reacts positive on these antivenoms and they > even may get things worse. You even may suffer from an aflectic shock (an > extra alergic reaction from the rattlers venom) which also can be deadly. > Because all went pretty fast and I was in time for proper treatment I still > have my arm (with my finger still numb though) Most of my smaller vains were > "eaten" by the hematoxin which caused the black and blue colors, I stll have > some kidney and liver failure but at least I'm still alive. The antivenom > really worked well in my case and after that the recovery went really fast. > > Just an extra warning on all posts about this subject....be carefull also for > the babies!!! > > Theres an old saying going in our crazy hobby about rattlers: > > A rattlesnake is a nasty desert worm saying...."f...ck off" on one > side....and "that's why"... on the other !! > > Take care on these desert hunts!! > > Jan, > IMCA 9833 > Holland > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas" <tmor...@mind.net> > To: "Meteorite-list" <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> > Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 9:31 PM > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mojave Green Jeans - Images of a Killer Snake > > >> Another good point that people often don't think of is to remove jewelry >> on the affected limb. Rings especially. The swelling from a snakebite is >> unbelievable. A hand can get almost as big as a soccer ball. A ring left >> on will cost you that finger. >> >> Transport fast and call ahead if possible, it takes awhile to get >> antivenom ready. >> >> Thomas M >> -former Mojave area ER nurse >> >> ______________________________________________ >> Visit the Archives at >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.869 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3258 - Release Date: 11/15/10 > 08:34:00 > > ______________________________________________ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list ______________________________________________ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list