Looks like your "little" guy has a full belly... ;)
Eric
On 11/15/2010 5:41 PM, Jay & Annette wrote:
Hi all, those are nasty for sure. Two years ago down at Franconia I ran into this
"little" guy. I was for sure spooked, and counted 10 rattles, which doesn't
mean a whole lot, other than it's a big snake. Needless to say, I felt that those
meteorites could wait another few months until cooler weather.
http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj224/JayrayNV/snake1jun08Franconia.jpg
Jason
On Nov 15, 2010, at 2:56 PM, Jan Bartels wrote:
Listoids,
Besides meteorites we are also keepers and breeders of these nasty "worms" for
almost 30 years now.
Besides several Cobra species, Puffadders, Asian and African Bushvipers we also have some
Rattlers as well. Never got bitten until about 3 months back. We had a nest of 7 babies,
at least I thought so....number 8 showed itself after removing the water bowl from their
cage and got me right in one of my fingers. When you think of a baby ratler produces less
venom your way wrong!! The thing is they still need to learn how to control the amount of
venom needed when hunting for prey. The adults may even give a "dry bite" many
times just to defend themselves and are more or less aware they need their venom better
to catch prey. I got a bite from an adult Diamond Back a few years ago and nothing
happened......
Believe me, when they stike and give you the full amount....you'll know!!
Immediately when that baby got me, my finger started swelling up. The pain was
unbaerable. When you feel the venom is pumped in your finger it feels like a
very hot local electric shock.
After a few hours my arm turned all colors of the rainbow and at the end my
complete arm was swollen over 6 inches thicker than my other arm.
I ended up at the ICU with tubes sticking out from every hole in my body,
beeping monitors everywhere and needed 8 vails of antivenom with an even more
dangerous risk....not everybody reacts positive on these antivenoms and they
even may get things worse. You even may suffer from an aflectic shock (an extra
alergic reaction from the rattlers venom) which also can be deadly.
Because all went pretty fast and I was in time for proper treatment I still have my arm
(with my finger still numb though) Most of my smaller vains were "eaten" by the
hematoxin which caused the black and blue colors, I stll have some kidney and liver
failure but at least I'm still alive. The antivenom really worked well in my case and
after that the recovery went really fast.
Just an extra warning on all posts about this subject....be carefull also for
the babies!!!
Theres an old saying going in our crazy hobby about rattlers:
A rattlesnake is a nasty desert worm saying...."f...ck off" on one side....and
"that's why"... on the other !!
Take care on these desert hunts!!
Jan,
IMCA 9833
Holland
----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas"<tmor...@mind.net>
To: "Meteorite-list"<meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 9:31 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mojave Green Jeans - Images of a Killer Snake
Another good point that people often don't think of is to remove jewelry
on the affected limb. Rings especially. The swelling from a snakebite is
unbelievable. A hand can get almost as big as a soccer ball. A ring left
on will cost you that finger.
Transport fast and call ahead if possible, it takes awhile to get
antivenom ready.
Thomas M
-former Mojave area ER nurse
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