Dear Yoram, 

I would recommend p-nitroanilide substrate analogues assays since these are 
measured at 405 nm, they are extremely specific. For trypsin you would need 
benzoyl-arginine-p-nitroanilide and for chymotrypsin 
succinil-phenylalanine-p-nitroanilide. If you need more details, please contact 
me on hemicar...@yahoo.com and I can send you some papers with detailed 
description of procedures. 


Kind regards, 
N.



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   1. Trypsin and chemotrypsin colorimetric assay (Gerchman)
   2. Re: Ammonium sulfate precipitation from solutions with high
      sugar    content (Pow Joshi)
   3. Re: Ammonium sulfate precipitation from solutions with high
      sugar    content (Michael Sullivan)
   4. Re: Ammonium sulfate precipitation from solutions with high
      sugar    content (WS)
   5. Re: Ammonium sulfate precipitation from solutions with high
      sugar    content (WS)
   6. Membrane_protein_purification with_HIC (Theresa H)
   7. RE: Ammonium sulfate precipitation from solutions with high
      sugar    content (Irit Rappley)
   8. Re: Protein concentration with PEG (AllisonH)
   9. Re: Ammonium sulfate precipitation from solutions with high
      sugar    content (WS)
  10. Re: Ammonium sulfate precipitation from solutions with high
      sugar    content (WS)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 20:14:14 +0300
From: Gerchman <gerch...@research.haifa.ac.il>
Subject: Trypsin and chemotrypsin colorimetric assay
To: <meth...@oat.bio.indiana.edu>
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Greetings netters 

I am looking for recommendations for Trypsin and
Chemotrypsin colorimetric assay, preferably not in the UV range. 

Mant
thanks 

Yoram 


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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 14:18:49 -0400
From: Pow Joshi <pow.jo...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Ammonium sulfate precipitation from solutions with high
    sugar    content
To: WS <novalidaddr...@nurfuerspam.de>
Cc: meth...@magpie.bio.indiana.edu
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Hi Wo,

I was wondering if you could simply use the crude extract to spin down and
create a sucrose density gradient...that will allow you to pick out some
proteins within the gradient, and then the remaining may go over for
ammonium sulphate precipitation ? ...I've no idea how this would work, but
just a thought, if you have'nt already considered it.

Pow


On 30 April 2012 03:52, WS <novalidaddr...@nurfuerspam.de> wrote:

> Dear Experts,
>
> I am attempting to precipitate small amounts of (total) protein from a
> fruit juice concentrate. It looks quite much like honey. My plan is to
> dilute it 1x with water (to reduce viscosity) and then saturate it
> with ammonium sulfate. As the solution contains high amounts of sugars
> (mostly saccharose, I assume), will these interfere with my
> precipitation process?
>
> If yes, what may I do to circumvent it? Probably dialysis, but any
> other ideas?
>
> Thanks for your help!
>
> Wo
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 15:09:39 -0500
From: Michael Sullivan <mlsul...@wisc.edu>
Subject: Re: Ammonium sulfate precipitation from solutions with high
    sugar    content
Cc: meth...@magpie.bio.indiana.edu
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What do you want to use the protein for?

I had a very dilute, yet viscous extract of flowers that I wanted to use for 
western blotting. Carbohydrates made it visous, interfered with protein assays, 
and made the samples run quite poorly in a gel. I ended up using a phenol 
extraction method followed by MeOH precipitation that worked quite nicely. Of 
course, if you are trying to recover active protein this could be a problem.

Mike
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Research Molecular Geneticist
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Madison, WI 53706
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On Apr 30, 2012, at 2:52 AM, WS wrote:

> Dear Experts,
> 
> I am attempting to precipitate small amounts of (total) protein from a
> fruit juice concentrate. It looks quite much like honey. My plan is to
> dilute it 1x with water (to reduce viscosity) and then saturate it
> with ammonium sulfate. As the solution contains high amounts of sugars
> (mostly saccharose, I assume), will these interfere with my
> precipitation process?
> 
> If yes, what may I do to circumvent it? Probably dialysis, but any
> other ideas?
> 
> Thanks for your help!
> 
> Wo
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 14:22:18 -0700 (PDT)
From: WS <novalidaddr...@nurfuerspam.de>
Subject: Re: Ammonium sulfate precipitation from solutions with high
    sugar    content
To: bionet.molbio.methds-reag...@googlegroups.com
Cc: meth...@magpie.bio.indiana.edu, WS <novalidaddr...@nurfuerspam.de>
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Hi Pow, long time no see :)

My big problem is that there is almost no protein in the sample -> I won't see 
any bands. I expect about 1mg from 50 ml. I have started with 50ml of fruit 
juice concentrate, diluted with 50ml water and then added ammonium sulfate 
until saturation: No visible turbidity, No (visible) pellet after 2hrs @ 4000g 
(except some ammonium sulfate crystals. Unfortunately, I do not have access to 
a high speed centrifuge for such volumes. Spinning 24 eppis with 2ml each @ 
15.000g in my small benchtop centrifuge might be an option, however.

Could it make sense to add some unrelated protein, eg BSA or OVA (that's what I 
have in my fridge), as co-precipitant (like one does with glycogen or 
poly-acrylamide for DNA)?.

Wo



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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 14:22:18 -0700 (PDT)
From: WS <novalidaddr...@nurfuerspam.de>
Subject: Re: Ammonium sulfate precipitation from solutions with high
    sugar    content
To: methods@net.bio.net
Cc: meth...@magpie.bio.indiana.edu, WS <novalidaddr...@nurfuerspam.de>
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Hi Pow, long time no see :)

My big problem is that there is almost no protein in the sample -> I won't see 
any bands. I expect about 1mg from 50 ml. I have started with 50ml of fruit 
juice concentrate, diluted with 50ml water and then added ammonium sulfate 
until saturation: No visible turbidity, No (visible) pellet after 2hrs @ 4000g 
(except some ammonium sulfate crystals. Unfortunately, I do not have access to 
a high speed centrifuge for such volumes. Spinning 24 eppis with 2ml each @ 
15.000g in my small benchtop centrifuge might be an option, however.

Could it make sense to add some unrelated protein, eg BSA or OVA (that's what I 
have in my fridge), as co-precipitant (like one does with glycogen or 
poly-acrylamide for DNA)?.

Wo


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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 21:03:25 +0000
From: Theresa H <theresah...@live.com>
Subject: Membrane_protein_purification with_HIC
To: <meth...@magpie.bio.indiana.edu>
Message-ID: <blu151-w36010c37b2eeae52f4268889...@phx.gbl>


Dear all
Can membrane proteins be purified with hydrophobic interaction chromatography 
(HIC) without denaturing/delipidate protein or the resin? Is there any type of 
detergents to avoid?

Thank you.

Theresa



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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 21:52:18 -0700
From: Irit Rappley <irapp...@scripps.edu>
Subject: RE: Ammonium sulfate precipitation from solutions with high
    sugar    content
To: WS <novalidaddr...@nurfuerspam.de>,
    "bionet.molbio.methds-reag...@googlegroups.com"
    <bionet.molbio.methds-reag...@googlegroups.com>
Cc: "meth...@magpie.bio.indiana.edu" <meth...@magpie.bio.indiana.edu>
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Hi Wo,

In the past I've added 1 mg/mL BSA to a dilute protein solution, then 
precipitated it with TCA. However, then you'll be stuck with 1 mg/mL BSA in 
your resulting pellet. 

If you're seriously considering the 24 eppis option, wouldn't dialysis be 
easier?

HTH,
Irit

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On Behalf Of WS [novalidaddr...@nurfuerspam.de]
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To: bionet.molbio.methds-reag...@googlegroups.com
Cc: meth...@magpie.bio.indiana.edu; WS
Subject: Re: Ammonium sulfate precipitation from solutions with high sugar      
content

Hi Pow, long time no see :)

My big problem is that there is almost no protein in the sample -> I won't see 
any bands. I expect about 1mg from 50 ml. I have started with 50ml of fruit 
juice concentrate, diluted with 50ml water and then added ammonium sulfate 
until saturation: No visible turbidity, No (visible) pellet after 2hrs @ 4000g 
(except some ammonium sulfate crystals. Unfortunately, I do not have access to 
a high speed centrifuge for such volumes. Spinning 24 eppis with 2ml each @ 
15.000g in my small benchtop centrifuge might be an option, however.

Could it make sense to add some unrelated protein, eg BSA or OVA (that's what I 
have in my fridge), as co-precipitant (like one does with glycogen or 
poly-acrylamide for DNA)?.

Wo

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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 01 May 2012 11:13:32 -0400
From: AllisonH <nos...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Protein concentration with PEG
To: methods@net.bio.net
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How about Ficoll?  The powder can be used just like PEG.

Allison



On 30/04/2012 7:50 AM, WS wrote:
> Dear Experts,
>
> You are probably aware of the protein concentration method by
> "dialyzing" against polyethyleneglycol. My question is regarding the
> MW of PEG and the pore size of the tubing: Currently, I am using
> PEG20000 (avg MW 15k-20k) and a dialysis tubing with a cutoff of 14kD
> for globular proteins. In my experience, this is working very well
> (and cheap), esp. for large volumes.
>
> We just got some concerns now that some of the PEG could make it
> across the membrane. Is there any need to be concerned? Which would
> mean to switch to PEG35k or higher and/or tubing with a lower cut/off,
> both increasing the expenses. As I understand PEG, the molecules will
> get quite huge due to hydratation and PEG always has some low MW size
> "contaminants" i.e. molecules shorter than desired.
>
> Anything you can suggest?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Wo



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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 04:18:06 -0700 (PDT)
From: WS <novalidaddr...@nurfuerspam.de>
Subject: Re: Ammonium sulfate precipitation from solutions with high
    sugar    content
To: bionet.molbio.methds-reag...@googlegroups.com
Cc: meth...@magpie.bio.indiana.edu, WS <novalidaddr...@nurfuerspam.de>
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    <12034566.332.1335871086444.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@vbpz13>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Hi Michael, I do not need active protein, I need it for a western. I'll give it 
a try, thanks!

Wo



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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 04:18:06 -0700 (PDT)
From: WS <novalidaddr...@nurfuerspam.de>
Subject: Re: Ammonium sulfate precipitation from solutions with high
    sugar    content
To: methods@net.bio.net
Cc: meth...@magpie.bio.indiana.edu, WS <novalidaddr...@nurfuerspam.de>
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Hi Michael, I do not need active protein, I need it for a western. I'll give it 
a try, thanks!

Wo



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