What about GenMach?
Too big and bloated?
Thanks
Jonathan Stephens
-----Original Message-----
From: Zsiros, Pete [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2000 9:40 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [mfg-smartcam] MASTER CAM
I am an avid advocate Unigraphics. As one would expect from a
high-end
system, the modeling capabilities are immense, as are the assembly
features,
You can customize your tool libraries in ways our guys at SmartCam
never
even dreamed of. But when it comes to controlling every move on the
machine
down to the smallest fillet, or when you feel like putting something
new
into the code generators, or if you just want to turn offset off in
the
middle of the toolpath, You find that SmartCam, like it was five
years ago,
is still unparalelled.
And yes, let's keep the discussion going.
Pete Zsiros
Disclaimer: I do not sell, or in any other way represent any
software
maker's product. I hope it is obvious from my comments.
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From: Blomquist, Jamie [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2000 11:57 AM
To: 'Manhart, Martin'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]';
'[MFG-SMARTCAM]'
Subject: RE: [mfg-smartcam] MASTER CAM
Well, lets keep this discussion about alternative CAM
systems going,
it's a
good one. Everyone's needs are different. We do a lot of
everyday
type
machining with many tools and many workplaces. Also some
prototype
and mold
type work. We have got our first look at Esprit and Gibbs,
we were
actually
quite optimistic about both. Any ideas?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Manhart, Martin [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2000 10:10 AM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; '[MFG-SMARTCAM]'
> Subject: RE: [mfg-smartcam] MASTER CAM
>
> Dick,
>
> Can you edit your actual tool path elements in the EdgeCam
modules
for
> taking out little incongruities and precisely controlling
your
tools when
> needed?
>
> Does it output APT or have an integrated code Generator?
>
> And thanks for your input, as we too are on a quest for
state of
the art
> CAM
> software.
>
> Marty
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dick Allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, February 18, 2000 8:31 AM
> > To: 'John Wright'; 'Manhart, Martin'; '[MFG-SMARTCAM]'
> > Subject: RE: [mfg-smartcam] MASTER CAM
> >
> >
> > As everyone knows Smartcam is an excellent cam software
and
> > has had a big
> > impact on the manufacturing community. When you look at
the
> > progression from
> > Point Control Days until last year the technology was
second
> > to none. The
> > problem is SDRC has decided to abandon the development
of the
> > software and
> > focus their attention on the larger customers that are
> > willing to spend a
> > lot more money then the normal business. There's a good
and
> > bad to what they
> > have done. The bad is they decided that the customer
base
> > they have using
> > smartcam was not important anymore. The good thing they
have
> > done is to open
> > our eyes to other software's that are actually as good
or
> > better and are
> > putting development money into their products to help
the
> > manufacturing
> > community. We evaluated all of the major Cam software's
and
> > we used Smartcam
> > to compare these products to as one of the test. We
found
> > that through this
> > process that EdgeCam by Pathtrace had a lot of
similarities.
> > The system is
> > easy to use and they offer different modules (like Basic
mill,Freeform
> > Machining,Turn,Wire,etc.)As we investigated Edgecam more
we
> > saw that they
> > were committed to advance the technologies for the cam
> > industry now and in
> > the future. We also found that there are no 2 software's
that
> > are exactly
> > the same. Some things are easier in smartcam and some in
> > Edgecam. We found
> > several features with EdgeCam over Smartcam. Since we
choose
> > Edgecam to be
> > our Cam product they have made several enhancements
above
> > smartcam. They are
> > able to read several Cad Solids directly, such as
Catia,Solidedge,etc.
> > Working with code generators are a lot easier and the
way
> > they store their
> > tools in the tool store is really cool (not to mention
the ease
of
> > programming parts). All I know is that it doesn't matter
how
> > well we like
> > smartcam it is gone. Anyone that sets around whining
about it
> > being gone
> > will be the same ones whining later that they are
loosing
> > business to the
> > companies that moved on. Thanks Pathtrace for stepping
up to
> > bat and take us
> > through the next millenium.
> > Thanks for letting me say my piece.
> > D. Allen
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
John Wright
> > Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2000 3:46 PM
> > To: Manhart, Martin; [MFG-SMARTCAM]
> > Subject: Re: [mfg-smartcam] MASTER CAM
> >
> >
> > Thank you I am still looking for that killer package
similar
> > to smart cam or
> > should I say
> > (smart cam 2 the resurrection ) ha! wishful thinking.
> > John
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Manhart, Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 'John Wright' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [MFG-SMARTCAM]
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Murdoch, Christoph
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Irwin, John
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> > Sawickyj, Teofil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: Thursday, February 17, 2000 2:20 PM
> > Subject: RE: [mfg-smartcam] MASTER CAM
> >
> >
> > >John,
> > >
> > >We just had a 1-1/2 hour demo of Master cam milling
level 2
> > V7 & V8 beta
> > >(2-1/2 axis) the modeler is very nice solid
> > extruding/subtracting unlimited
> > >construction lines nice trimming dimensioning, all the
toys.
> > It drilled
> > >holes quite well, didn't face mill very well and the
work
planes for
> > >indexing around a Horizontal machine's index table were
not as
easily
> > >created, there is also no automatic resequencing of
tool path
or tool
> > >sorting once tool path is created other than grabbing
each
machining
> > >operation off a list and repositioning the whole
operation
> > as a unit in a
> > >different order. It's one main flaw is you can't edit
he tool
path
> > elements
> > >that are generated. The demo guy did a pocketing cut
which
> > had a lot of
> > >repetitious passes through the a valley which you could
have
> > doctored up in
> > >SmartCam but would have been nightmare to deal with
weeding
> > out of the
> > >actual G-code.
> > >The translator from AutoCAD would only get the wire
frame
> > elements for the
> > >.dwg file so you still had to write out a .sat file
from
> > AutoCAD and import
> > >the .sat into MasterCam to get the solid model.
> > >The mold/die making package (available for another
$1,400)
> > looked good
> > >though, it had a lot more gouge checking in it than
SmartCam.
> > >
> > >I guess we may need it to keep up with the changing
versions
> > of translators
> > >to still be able to import Cad files, but It still
needs
> > more development.
> > >
> > >P.S. They did say in one of the next versions tool path
> > editing is going to
> > >be added!
> > >
> > >Marty
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: John Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > >> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2000 12:25 PM
> > >> To: [MFG-SMARTCAM]
> > >> Subject: [mfg-smartcam] MASTER CAM
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Anybody ever tried MasterCam?
> > >> If so how did it compare to smartcam.
> > >> Thank's John
> > >>
> > >>
> >
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