On Thursday 07 January 2010, Matthias Johnson wrote:
> On Jan 7, 2010, at 11:14 AM, Phil M Perry <[email protected]> 
wrote:
> > I tried watching the stream yesterday, and it was unwatchable
> > (screen image too pixelated). I suspect that the image being
> > placed in a rather small window had something to do with it.
> 
> I noticed the same issue with pixelation but Joe next to me was
>  very clear.  I was running mint 8 (no teasing) and Joe was running
>  xp (sorry Joe). It was flash so maybe that was it.  But what may
>  have really been the problem was the fact that Joe was logged in
>  and I wasn't.

I don't think that had anything to do with it.  I was briefly watching 
the stream, was next to Joe, and wasn't logged in; the stream window 
between our screens was the same size.

There have been several online video/audio streams from Lilug meetings 
done by tonyb486 [that's his IRC handle] over time and from that we've 
found that it's not possible to make a stream that is anywhere near 
what you would consider a "normal" A/V quality.  High-quality video or 
audio either gets into limits of CPU or outbound bandwidth (especially 
since each client requires a separate connection), and from 
experimentation it was found that higher quality audio than video made 
the stream more tolerable.  The stream we had last night was 
approximately of the same quality that was eventually achieved at 
Lilug; the only difference was that the Lilug stream used was a long 
link that can be viewed through a client (Xine, Totem, etc) which 
allows resizing the video image, where the Mhvlug stream was through a 
more convenient web page with a static video window size.  From my own 
experimentation, expanding the video from the Lilug stream didn't help 
get any more detail, but rather only made size of people more into 
normal perspective -- i.e. being able to resize doesn't matter very 
much.

The bottom line is that I thought the Mhvlug stream from last night 
worked pretty well and was the best first try I've seen -- the audio 
seemed pretty clear, the video gave a good impression of what was 
going on.  It may not have been easy or even possible to read some of 
the presentation text, but I've ever seen a live stream that fully 
accomplished that.

Sean, my congratulations -- that went very well.

  -- Chris

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Chris Knadle
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