I think this is what we are chasing
http://www.ecoustics.com/electronics/products/articles/131062.html
I don't have a way to produce a frequency response chart for each headphone.
Seems this is going to be a dead end, in that I can only subjectively
compare the two.
I just can't find a way to quantify compare or contrast them.


On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 5:29 PM, Jack Chastain <[email protected]>wrote:

>
>
> On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 5:18 PM, Joseph Apuzzo <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Well putting aside the marketing hype why do they make audio equipment
>> that produces sound outside of the normal hearing range?
>>
>
> It's the "envelope" that needs to be preserved. Preserving the actual notes
> is relatively simple. The "Attack" and "Release" parts primarily
> (Attach-Decay-Sustain-Release) with (depending on instrument) Attack being
> usually the most important. For percussive instruments or notes, the attack
> is normally represented by an extremely high frequency - where the "note"
> you actually hear is contained and much lower. Usually. Some
> electonicly-generated stuff may differ ;-)
>
>
>>
>> "Humans have a maximum aural range that begins as low as 12 Hz under ideal
>> laboratory 
>> conditions,[2]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hearing_range#cite_note-1>to 
>> 20,000 Hz in most children and some adults, but the range shrinks during
>> life, usually beginning at around the age of 8 with the higher frequencies
>> fading."
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hearing_range#Humans
>>
>> My theory is that by producing sounds outside you are adding back in
>> harmonics in an attempt to more accurately reproduce the sound at lower
>> volume. I only base this on my observation that the brawler the range the
>> lower the volume I need to enjoy the music.
>> If this is not the case ( as I can not prove it either way ) then a good
>> $22 pair of headphones ( now assuming a good sensitivity of => 105dB/1mW
>> ) is all you should ever really need. Thus my inquiry ;-)
>>
>
> You are pretty much right (though it has little to do with volume) - as
> long as those $22 phones CAN reproduce the frequency range. What you will
> hear is "accuracy" rather than notes. Lack of high freq response tends to
> sound muddy.
>
> An amusing anecdote - I once re-met a friend I had not seen for years, but
> usually only spoke to on 2-meter radio. We seldom met face-to-face. When I
> did meet him again years later, I felt I knew him, but wasn't really sure (I
> found later he had the same feeling).
>
> Some days later, he called me - and when I heard his voice on the phone, I
> knew INSTANTLY who he was. I actually NEEDED the lower frequency response of
> the phone system, which imitated the response of the FM Band we used to talk
> on - before I could "hear" his voice and remember it! The wider version in
> person was way too much information!
>
> JC
> --
> Eschew obfuscation and pompous prolixity.
>
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> Light a man afire, he is warm for the rest of his life.
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