On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 2:31 PM, dragorn <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 01:47:03PM -0500, Jack Chastain wrote:
> > Today (and probably for at least a year or so now), the unit indicates it
> > has a WiFi section active (on front panel) but I do not have a signal
> > present. I used WiFi Analyzer on my phone to check. My main office signal
> > is present at -90+ db but other than a few other neighborhood signals,
> > nothing is there.
> >
> > I apparently cannot access the router either. I removed all other network
> > cables leaving only the Linux system it is normally supporting via wired
> > conenction. I rebooted everything - I cannot access the router. I used
> both
> > 192.168.1.1 and 192.168.1.100. Without the supporting FiOS router though,
> > the Linux system does not see any network at all and obtains no address
> > itself. (I pretty much expected this as the Netgear was set up to be
> > an extension, so it can only get an address from the FiOS system).
> >
> > So - I thought I would pop it out to the folks who know the most about
> > these things. Anyone ever played with one of these? I am about to do a
> full
> > factory reset on it and try to start over, at least trying to get into
> the
> > router itself, but I recall having a pretty tough time initially, so I
> > figured I would ask first.
>
> As an extension, do you mean it's a second AP with the same SSID?  Or
> is it set up as some sort of wacky repeater?  You want the former -
> namely, same ssid, same crypto, non-router 'bridge' mode, different
> channel.
>

Good question and I THINK this is right - Same SSID, basically working as
an "extension" of what I have on the FiOS box downstairs.  It is a
(distant) second AP. At one point originally, I recall having a second
SSID, but during configuration, we realised that wasn't really what we
wanted - so we converted it to be the same SSID. It seemed to work properly
back when we really didn't use t for much. Once we really needed it, it
seems the radio had gone away, as has the access, so I can't be 100% sure -
but I believe a "same SSID" system is what I want.

I vaguely recall that we also may have set non-interfering channels as
well, rather than allowing the unit to auto-select. These memories are all
close to two years old though. I don't work with this stuff more than very
occasionally and I don't have more than a vague notion of what I am talking
about.


> As far as the rest - this happens a lot with crappy wi-fi consumer
> gear.  It's a real pain.  A lot of them simply don't have the ram to
> manage connection and such, this usually shows up as a bigger problem
> when it's in router mode instead of AP bridge mode, but...
>

Certainly agree, but my key issue with this was what I really hope was a
mis-statement, but seems to match up pretty well with what I remember the
time frame being - that being the statement by that contact at NetGear that
"the reason your WiFi is not working is your support contract has ended." -
I truly hope this is completely wrong, but the time frame is just so ...
synchronous.


> Factory resetting is probably a good plan, it can't hurt.  You should
> be able to reset it into a router mode, then connect to it via wired,
> and reconfigure it.
>

Going to go try that in a few moments. Finally.


>
> You may have better luck in the long run getting a new AP entirely -
> things are getting a lot better.  I've had good luck with the
> WNDR3800, it's relatively cheap on amazon, runs openwrt like a champ,
> and can support USB drives and such as well - even running it as a
> bridge you may find it useful in other capacities (like throwing a few
> USB disks on it for backups, etc).
>
> Sorry it's hard to be more exact with diagnostics - a lot of the
> older (and current cheapest) gear tends to poo itself fairly regularly
> and there's not much by way of debugging you can do.  It's not too
> unusual to get it wedged in some funky state - most of the smaller
> stuff has dropped from linux to vxworks, halved the ram in the unit,
> dropped CPU quality, etc.  It's not unusual to ship them with 2 meg of
> ram and 4 meg of storage.  Way too underpowered for modern loads.
>

No worries - it was a shotgun question anyway. The unit was cheap and I
didn't expect a lot - and to have it actually work at all was amazing. It
was more the tech response to my question - and the need to purchase a
contract for service that was more than twice the cost of the system that
really put me off. All the info received has been useful - I am going to go
mess with things now on the existing unit, and hopefully play with an old
WRT54G after the meeting and through Paul's spare unit.

JC
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