Hi Ralph,
I'm the vendor. No misteak involved. Nor even a mistake :-) We don't
deal with anything but Miatas, so anything in our salvage dept came out
of a Miata. In this case, Chad's fan came out of car #27, a 1997 Montego
automatic. Possible it was replaced before we bought the car, but it was
a stock Miata with the correct plug, so I think in this case somebody at
the factory did screw up. FWIW, etc.  
 

Bill Cardell 
TurboDog's Dad 
www.flyinmiata.com 
www.fmwestfield.com 
Sales 1-800-359-6957 
Tech 970-464-5600 Before you call, check out
http://www.flyinmiata.com/FAQ/ 

 

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From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ralph Alder
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 6:25 PM
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Main cooling fan a "pusher?"


I would posit that the chance of a fan motor coming of an automated
production line being reverse wired are slightly better than gasoline
being $2 a gallon tomorrow.  Of course the parts vendor would say it
must be a factory screw-up...he couldn't possibly have made a misteak!

Ralph Alder
Team Orphan Aerodyne

Chad J. Douglas wrote: 

        Just to keep the list up to date:
        
        I spoke with the vendor that sent me the fan, and they assured
me that this fan motor was pulled from a Miata, and it must've just been
a factory screw-up.
        
        When I pull the radiator out in the next couple weeks when my
dad has the money to buy its replacement.  I plan to rewire the existing
fan to make it turn the right direction, and while I'm at it, I'm going
to try to determine if the fan was just mis-wired when it was made, or
whether it was really designed to turn the opposite direction.
        
        If it was designed that way, its likely that the fan also came
with a matching set of blades with the reciprocal pitch so that the
airflow was the right direction even though it was the opposite
rotation.  
        
        What this all boils down to is this:  if it's designed that way,
always make sure you either get the blades that go with the new fan
motor, or make sure the motor you're getting is designed to turn the
same direction as the motor you're replacing.
        
        I'll report back here when I know more.
        
        
        On 4/27/10 5:28 PM, "Chad Douglas" <[email protected]> wrote:
        
        

                The plot thickens. 
                
                The fault is in the fan. The harness provides 12v
properly and the wires aren't crossed on the connector. The yellow wire
on the harness connects to the blue wire on the fan. I connected a spare
main cooling fan and it runs in the right direction and flows the right
direction. 
                
                Here's the strange part. A while back, my dad's main
cooling fan failed And we replaced the motor. We got the fan from a
respected Miata salvage parts vendor, too. 
                
                I guess they got a fan from some other car that had
blades that turned the opposite direction, since all we did was to
transplant the fan blades from the failed motor to the new one. 
                
                I had forgotten about this tidbit when I posted about
this originally. 
                
                I plan to contact the vendor privately to let them know
that they may want to be more careful. 
                
                For now, I will just install my spare fan in his
car..... After we get the new radiator, that is. 
                
                ---------------------------
                Chad Douglas
                Sent from my iPhone
                
                On Apr 26, 2010, at 2:30 PM, "[email protected]"
<[email protected]> wrote:
                
                

                        Do both fans run backwards?  Was the car ever in
an accident?  Body shop are notorious for doing this type of miss wire.
Trace the harness and see if there are any butt connectors.  
                         
                        Does the car have a/c?  It is amazing that the
car never over heated if it does.
                         
                        Raj
                         
                         
                         
                        In a message dated 4/26/2010 12:12:45 P.M.
Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes:
                        

                                
                                Wrong flow verified. Car has never
overheated. 
                                 
                                
                                 
                                I plan to get the car back soon to track
this down. I just wanted to ask  the list I'd they'd seen this before or
I'd Mazda dud something "brilliant" in  97. 
                                 
                                
                                ---------------------------  
                                Chad Douglas  
                                Sent from my iPhone
                                

                
                

        
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