Do a Google search and you'll never buy a front loader. They have serious design flaws.

I have had intimate contact with 5 different brands of front loaders and now have a GE brand High Efficiency top loader which I love and has none of the flaws of the front loader. It uses the same amount of water that a front loader does but without all the problems and is much quieter - an added plus is that the wash cycles take a lot less time than a front loader.

Where do I begin?

Let's start with the balance issue you spoke of. The front loaders are inherently off balance from the beginning. How they "overcome" that is by starting and stopping to redistribute the load because all the clothes want to fall to the bottom. This adds significantly to the time it takes to do a load of clothes. So if you have kids or other reasons you need to wash lots of clothes you'll get fewer done in a day. Not to mention the capacity is smaller with the Front Loaders.

But you say dryers are front loaders so why would the washer be off balance and the dryer not? The dryers are tumbling the clothes whereas the washer has to spin at a much higher speed to force the water out of the clothes.

When they get off balance, which is many times on each load they make lots of noise and they tend to walk across the room more easily than a top loader because they are taller. Don't even think of adding one of those under washer storage drawers to make the washer be at a better height to loading and unloading because that aggravates the walking situation.

Maintenance is greater on a front loader. You MUST clean the seal inside the front door that goes around the door often and very well. You must also regularly run empty loads that are high in bleach quite often. You also need to run empty loads about once a week with an expensive cleaner called Affresh. Why do you have to do all these things? It's because the front loader doesn't use enough water to wash down the drum well enough to get rid of all the detergent film. So what?

Your front loader has a totally different type of door on it than did your top loader. The front loader door must seal so that water doesn't run out when it's working. Did you ever build a terrarium when you were a kid? Once you closed it up you ended up with condensation inside your terrarium and many times strange things began to grow in there. The same thing happens in your washer.

The detergent film that doesn't get washed out of the drum is food for strange mildews and other beasties so you must leave the washer door open all the time and do all the cleaning rituals I mentioned before to try to stay ahead of the mold and mildew smells. You can try, but you'll never make it. Your clothes will begin to smell musty and people around you will begin to ask "What's that smell?" everytime you come near there.

Towels and other heavy cloth items seem to accumulate the smell the most.

How big is your laundry room? Will it even accomodate an open front loader washer having the door open all the time?

The only people I've ever seen that like their front loaders are ones that wash very few loads of clothes. I haven't seen one over here, but in Europe they have an all in one machine that washes and then dries. The heater element takes care of the mold and mildew issues so they work better, but you can't be washing another load while you are drying one.



On Aug 25, 2010, at 7:43 PM, Ken Bogart wrote:

Last washer I bought was about 3 years ago to replace a 20 year old top loader that was service free. I found a top load GE with huge capacity for about $350.

The front loaders cost three times as much, and have less capacity. But they do also use less water... I figured the payback on the water savings was about 15 years.

Will washing clothes in a fancy, designer colored, overpriced, potentially unreliable front load washer make you happy? Why spend a ton of money for something that is hidden away? Keep the upfront savings and buy a Miata accessory instead.


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On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 7:58 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
This is a personal consumer/user question regarding front loading clothes washing machines.

I know many testing organizations compile lists of Best Buys based on features and the results of short term, limited testing, but the reports of those LIVING with and USING a machine provide a lot of very useful data for the propsective purchaser.

Has anyone had ANY brand of front load washing machine (and dryer, for that matter) that has been, for a year or more, Pain Free (no repairs, no balance problems, no problems getting clothes clean, no control malfunctions), and the machine hasn't had problems that could not readily be resolved under warranty, or by owner or technician provided service if out of warranty? Has anyone had a recent acquisition (say, less than 3 years) NOT cost them a large sum of money in repair or parts costs?

I have a 17 year old top load Maytag that could now use a number of replacement parts (things do wear out over time and with heavy use), so I'm considering a new "better" washing machine (although some needed parts are still available through ApplianceClinic.com, a good source). From what I've read while researching washers on the web, NONE of the new models from ANY manufacturer seem to last more than a few weeks before something goes wrong. Seriously! If you go to ConsumerAffairs.com and search on any brand washer, you'll be confronted with so many horror stories that you may NEVER feel confident about spending cash on a new machine. There are nearly as many horror stories about warranty and service repairs, as well.

Therefore, I'd like to know if there is anything really positive to be said by consumers about modern clothes washing machines in regard to durability and / or the manufacturer's acceptance of responsibility to the consumers.

Thanks,

Jerry aka LGO

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