I was having the same problem for a few months. I finally went crazy
and re-soldered every joint that was not shiny, clean and the correct
shape. If it looked funny in any way it got wicked up and new solder
put down. I redid at least a quarter of the board and the harness
connector, going on four months and not one cut out (knock on wood).
On 6/16/2011 12:22 PM, Eric McCord wrote:
Latest update. I drove into work the other day and rebuilt the wire
from the Link to the Keypad. Also, I re flowed one of the solder
points on the keypad that looked like it might have been a cracked
solder joint. When I drove home that night I had no cut outs. The next
day I drove into work and it cut out once. Then on the way home it did
it several times. Today I tried the wiggle test on all the wires I
could think of, and it didn't cut out.......but it did twice while was
just standing there. Something else I notice was when the Link resets
it turns Security back on. Not very reassuring if the keypad dies out
on the road.
At this point my Miata is no longer dependable enough even just to
drive to and from work, let alone taking me and my daughter out on 5k
mile road trips like it has the past 2 summers. We were planing a NE
trip this year.
Eric
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 9:43 PM, Eric McCord <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I will try that, but I built a new cable using a round cable that
is very durable using new ends. I don't think the cable is the
issue. If I disconnect it and it still reboots that would rule it
out.
On Jun 7, 2011 9:27 PM, "Ray Ayala" <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> And as somebody else already mentioned, don't forget a wiggle
test of the keypad cable at both ends. I've seen the connectors
fail at both ends and I've also seen the flat cable's insulation
fail where the cable passes under the ECU's cover.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bill Cardell
> To: Eric McCord ; Stephen Rigley
> Cc: List, Miata Power
> Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 10:57 AM
> Subject: RE: 91 Link FM2 cutting out and surging.....
>
>
> If it's rebooting, it's telling you where to look. You're losing
power or ground, so I'd be looking at main relay, etc.
> And Steve, you lucky bastard seeing the GP. Boring as it was.
>
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> From: [email protected]
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[mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Eric McCord
> Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 11:20 AM
> To: Stephen Rigley
> Cc: List, Miata Power
> Subject: Re: 91 Link FM2 cutting out and surging.....
>
>
> Steve,
>
>
> I had the ECU out this winter and there were no cold solder
joints. I was leaning that way last fall. I am starting to think
that the problem is centering around the connectors to the ECU. If
your problem is the same then taking out your ECU would have
reseated the connectors when you reinstalled. My car was dying
continuously when I parked it. I took it for a short drive after
getting the WB02 hooked up and there was no cutting out. It made
it all the way to work yesterday without rebooting.
>
>
> Eric
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Stephen Rigley
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
> Hi Eric,
>
> I'm having very similar issues for the 2nd time, last time it
was fixed by retouching the solder on the connector pins on the
ECU, MAP box and Keypad.
> It started happening this time a few weeks ago, 1 hour into a
3500km drive to the Spanish GP. Same thing every morning until we
warmed up the floor with the exhaust ;-) Until then, the car would
die every few minutes and I'd yell at my passenger to stomp the
floor and off we would go again.
>
> Steve
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 5:42 PM, Eric McCord
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
> Surge turned out to just be a vacuum leak.
>
>
> Bruce - I already built a new cable. So that option seems unlikely.
>
>
> Ray - Unfortunately I lost my Link interface box years ago.
>
>
> Bill - Last fall I was talking with Kieth and he had me do as
you instruct. It rebooted. I was hoping the surge and reboots
occurring at the same time would have help me isolate the problem,
but that isn't the case. We are getting rain for the next few days
so I will look at the wiring again next chance I get.
>
>
> Eric
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 10:04 AM, Bill Cardell
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
> As Ray said, datalogs would help a lot. Something simple you can
do is select any window other than rpm in the keypad and leave it
there while you're driving. If the car cuts out, look at the
keypad before you turn the key off. Is it still in the window
where you left it or is it now in rpm? If rpm window, it means you
have rebooted, so start looking at power and grounds. Wiggle tests
can help, as can a multimeter that gives you max/min measurements
so you can drive with the meter on say the 12v supply and then
look at the meter if the car dies to see if you have lost the 12v.
>
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[mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Eric McCord
> Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 12:53 AM
> To: List, Miata Power
>
> Subject: 91 Link FM2 cutting out and surging.....
>
>
>
> ok.....I finally got my 91 back out on the road. I have the WB02
installed and all seemed well on the drive into work (35 miles).
No surging at idle and no cutting out while driving. When I
started home after work the ECU drop outs started and the surging
is back.
>
>
> I had the Link out earlier and checked for cold solder
joints....none found. I reseated the chip and checked all the
connections at the ECU. What could cause both the hunting for idle
and dropping out the ECU causing the engine to die? I am thinking
a ground problem, but I wanted to float this out to the collective
to see if there is some other explanation.
>
>
> Eric
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