I resoldered about half the joints on the board at the weekend, did wiggle test, did tap test, went for a drive, no reboot so far. Think I might have it fixed, fingers crossed. Steve
On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 4:27 PM, Eric McCord <[email protected]> wrote: > I'm still beating my head against a wall with mine too. I can't get it to > fail the same way enough to isolate the problem. I can get it to cut out > wiggling the wires sometimes and other times by tapping on various > components on the ECU. I was thinking of reinstalling my stock ECU and not > starting but wiggling the wires to see if it's just wiring, but I don't know > if the wire changes would somehow allow the stock ECU to fry a sensor. > On Jul 2, 2011 11:13 AM, "Stephen Rigley" <[email protected]> wrote: > > I resoldered just the connector pins this morning, ECU didn't reboot on > > wiggle test but would when the cover was tapped lightly. So, its out > again, > > think I'll touch up all joints tonight. I'll be looking for a used board > if > > this doesn't work I guess. > > Steve > > > > On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 8:02 PM, Jesus Lara <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> ** > >> I was having the same problem for a few months. I finally went crazy and > >> re-soldered every joint that was not shiny, clean and the correct shape. > If > >> it looked funny in any way it got wicked up and new solder put down. I > >> redid at least a quarter of the board and the harness connector, going > on > >> four months and not one cut out (knock on wood). > >> > >> On 6/16/2011 12:22 PM, Eric McCord wrote: > >> > >> Latest update. I drove into work the other day and rebuilt the wire from > >> the Link to the Keypad. Also, I re flowed one of the solder points on > the > >> keypad that looked like it might have been a cracked solder joint. When > I > >> drove home that night I had no cut outs. The next day I drove into work > and > >> it cut out once. Then on the way home it did it several times. Today I > tried > >> the wiggle test on all the wires I could think of, and it didn't cut > >> out.......but it did twice while was just standing there. Something else > I > >> notice was when the Link resets it turns Security back on. Not > >> very reassuring if the keypad dies out on the road. > >> > >> At this point my Miata is no longer dependable enough even just to drive > >> to and from work, let alone taking me and my daughter out on 5k mile > road > >> trips like it has the past 2 summers. We were planing a NE trip this > year. > >> > >> Eric > >> > >> On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 9:43 PM, Eric McCord <[email protected] > >wrote: > >> > >>> I will try that, but I built a new cable using a round cable that is > very > >>> durable using new ends. I don't think the cable is the issue. If I > >>> disconnect it and it still reboots that would rule it out. > >>> On Jun 7, 2011 9:27 PM, "Ray Ayala" <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > And as somebody else already mentioned, don't forget a wiggle test of > >>> the keypad cable at both ends. I've seen the connectors fail at both > ends > >>> and I've also seen the flat cable's insulation fail where the cable > passes > >>> under the ECU's cover. > >>> > ----- Original Message ----- > >>> > From: Bill Cardell > >>> > To: Eric McCord ; Stephen Rigley > >>> > Cc: List, Miata Power > >>> > Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 10:57 AM > >>> > Subject: RE: 91 Link FM2 cutting out and surging..... > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > If it's rebooting, it's telling you where to look. You're losing > power > >>> or ground, so I'd be looking at main relay, etc. > >>> > And Steve, you lucky bastard seeing the GP. Boring as it was. > >>> > > >>> > Bill Cardell > >>> > TurboDog's Dad > >>> > > >>> > Flyin' Miata > >>> > HELP FLYIN' MIATA GO TO TARGA NEWFOUNDLAND! > >>> > Targa Miata Facebook page > >>> > FMWestfield > >>> > > >>> > Sales 1-800-359-6957 > >>> > Tech 970-464-5600 Before you call, check out > >>> http://www.flyinmiata.com/FAQ/ > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >>> > From: [email protected] [mailto: > >>> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Eric McCord > >>> > Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 11:20 AM > >>> > To: Stephen Rigley > >>> > Cc: List, Miata Power > >>> > Subject: Re: 91 Link FM2 cutting out and surging..... > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > Steve, > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > I had the ECU out this winter and there were no cold solder joints. I > >>> was leaning that way last fall. I am starting to think that the problem > is > >>> centering around the connectors to the ECU. If your problem is the same > then > >>> taking out your ECU would have reseated the connectors when you > reinstalled. > >>> My car was dying continuously when I parked it. I took it for a short > drive > >>> after getting the WB02 hooked up and there was no cutting out. It made > it > >>> all the way to work yesterday without rebooting. > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > Eric > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Stephen Rigley <[email protected]> > >>> wrote: > >>> > > >>> > Hi Eric, > >>> > > >>> > I'm having very similar issues for the 2nd time, last time it was > fixed > >>> by retouching the solder on the connector pins on the ECU, MAP box and > >>> Keypad. > >>> > It started happening this time a few weeks ago, 1 hour into a 3500km > >>> drive to the Spanish GP. Same thing every morning until we warmed up > the > >>> floor with the exhaust ;-) Until then, the car would die every few > minutes > >>> and I'd yell at my passenger to stomp the floor and off we would go > again. > >>> > > >>> > Steve > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 5:42 PM, Eric McCord <[email protected] > > > >>> wrote: > >>> > > >>> > Surge turned out to just be a vacuum leak. > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > Bruce - I already built a new cable. So that option seems unlikely. > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > Ray - Unfortunately I lost my Link interface box years ago. > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > Bill - Last fall I was talking with Kieth and he had me do as you > >>> instruct. It rebooted. I was hoping the surge and reboots occurring at > the > >>> same time would have help me isolate the problem, but that isn't the > case. > >>> We are getting rain for the next few days so I will look at the wiring > again > >>> next chance I get. > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > Eric > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 10:04 AM, Bill Cardell <[email protected]> > >>> wrote: > >>> > > >>> > As Ray said, datalogs would help a lot. Something simple you can do > is > >>> select any window other than rpm in the keypad and leave it there while > >>> you're driving. If the car cuts out, look at the keypad before you turn > the > >>> key off. Is it still in the window where you left it or is it now in > rpm? If > >>> rpm window, it means you have rebooted, so start looking at power and > >>> grounds. Wiggle tests can help, as can a multimeter that gives you > max/min > >>> measurements so you can drive with the meter on say the 12v supply and > then > >>> look at the meter if the car dies to see if you have lost the 12v. > >>> > > >>> > Bill Cardell > >>> > TurboDog's Dad > >>> > Flyin' Miata > >>> > 1-800-359-6967 (sales) > >>> > 970-464-5600 (tech support) > >>> > www.flyinmiata.com > >>> > www.fmwestfield.com > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >>> > From: [email protected] [mailto: > >>> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Eric McCord > >>> > Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 12:53 AM > >>> > To: List, Miata Power > >>> > > >>> > Subject: 91 Link FM2 cutting out and surging..... > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > ok.....I finally got my 91 back out on the road. I have the WB02 > >>> installed and all seemed well on the drive into work (35 miles). No > surging > >>> at idle and no cutting out while driving. When I started home after > work the > >>> ECU drop outs started and the surging is back. > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > I had the Link out earlier and checked for cold solder joints....none > >>> found. I reseated the chip and checked all the connections at the ECU. > What > >>> could cause both the hunting for idle and dropping out the ECU causing > the > >>> engine to die? I am thinking a ground problem, but I wanted to float > this > >>> out to the collective to see if there is some other explanation. > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > Eric > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > _______________________________________________ > >>> > Miatapower mailing list > >>> > [email protected] > >>> > http://list.miatapower.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/miatapower > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > _______________________________________________ > >>> > Miatapower mailing list > >>> > [email protected] > >>> > http://list.miatapower.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/miatapower > >>> > >> at the connector on the ypad > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Miatapower mailing [email protected]:// > list.miatapower.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/miatapower > > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Miatapower mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> http://list.miatapower.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/miatapower > >> > >> >
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