OK, so a minimal microformat for a citation could look like this:

<x class="citation [type]">
        <x class="title">Item title</x>
        <x class="creators"><hcards></x>
        <x class="container citation [type]"><hcitation for the container></x>
<x class="pages">n-n</x> [and anything else specific to this particular type of citation]
</x>

I think that's essentially very similar to Mike's version too.

alf.

On 29 Mar 2006, at 14:20, Breton Slivka wrote:

True, but a mechanism for this sort of thing already exists for microformats in XMDP, and in a somewhat more flexiible form, in that one does not need a monolithic profile for all the modules involved, one can have a seperate profile for each module and link to each seperately.

The basic thrust of this is to follow the microformat principal of solving the simple problem first. Out of all these specific domains exists a definite "simplest problem". The only dispute that I see is that the simplest problem doesn't solve all the domain specific problems. You wouldn't expect it to! So you make additional microformats to solve the domain specific issues. Thus the "micro" in microformats, as I understand it.

On Mar 29, 2006, at 12:13 PM, Alf Eaton wrote:

On 29 Mar 2006, at 14:02, Breton Slivka wrote:

If we are for the moment to entertain the idea of modularization, couldn't type then be simply inferred by which module(s) in use? If you go with a nesting microformat model for that, type is encapsulated entirely in the container class of specific modules, and the modules which are in use determine behavior, much the same as embedded svg/mathml does today, or a more direct comparison in the modularization of xhtml.

If you embed MathML and SVG in XHTML you still have to use the right DOCTYPE, so that the validator knows which modules are allowed (though admittedly you don't necessarily need the precise DOCTYPE just for displaying/interpreting the document):

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC
    "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.1 plus MathML 2.0 plus SVG 1.1//EN"
    "http://www.w3.org/2002/04/xhtml-math-svg/xhtml-math-svg.dtd";>

alf.




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