In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, James O'Donnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
> >On 16 Dec 2007, at 04:28, Paul Wilkins wrote: > >> <span class="duration" title="PT2M23S">2:23</span> >> >> With this it is not possible to prevent the title from being used by >> screen readers and other people who hover their mouse over the time >> value. The title is purely to provide machine readable information >> that is not humanly presented. > >Hi, > >JAWS (and, I think, WindowEyes also) reads titles on links, >abbreviations and form controls. <span> should be safe if you want to >hide the contents of the title attribute from a screenreader. > >Span seems a more pragmatic choice to me, since title on <span> >supplements the enclosed text, whereas title on <abbr> replaces the >enclosed text. As someone else mentioned, for a lot of these cases we >want to annotate a piece of text with computer-parsable information. While I understand the desire to avoid namespacing per se, in this case, using: <span class="duration" title="value:PT2M23S">2:23</span> or <span class="dtstart" title="value:20070912T16:03:00+01:00"> 4.03pm </span> would render the title both more semantically accurate and human-readable. It would also enable the users of assistive technologies to hit the "next" button as soon as they hear "value colon" read out, bypassing the machine-readable fragment. Parsers "MUST" ignore titles not starting with "value;", thereby ensuring compatibility with titles used on spans, for other purposes. In the above "value:" is just as suggestion; the label could be "machine-value:", "data-equivalent:", or some other such word or phrase. This suggestion may case problems for non-English speakers, though. Perhaps "data:" would be more internationally recognised? -- Andy Mabbett * Say "NO!" to compulsory UK ID Cards: <http://www.no2id.net/> * Free Our Data: <http://www.freeourdata.org.uk> * Are you using Microformats, yet: <http://microformats.org/> ? _______________________________________________ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss