On Aug 30, 2007, at 8:22 AM, Andy Mabbett wrote:

and class="position" for the track number.

What do you do for the tracks on the second or subsequent disc of a
multi-disc set?

Good question! For vinyl (double-sided), I've been using A1, A2, B1, B2, etc., but that doesn't seem scalable. I just did a bit of research and found this:

http://atomicparsley.sourceforge.net/mpeg-4files.html

Based on the data here, I'd propose changing "position" to "track_number", and using "disk_number" for multi-disc sets. Do you think that would work?

We should also be careful to distinguish /types/ of identifier
(catalogue number, UID, ISBN, Amazon-ASIN, etc.)

Since those other than catalogue number are proprietary
identification methods, i.e., identifers for external systems, the role of
"identifier" should go to the primary source, the record
label or publisher.

ISBN is not "proprietary", neither are "International Standard Music Number:
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Standard_Music_Number>
and the other, related identifiers listed at the foot of that page.
Perhaps we need type/ value pairs for them?

"Proprietary," as in "something owned, trademarked, registered, or protected." ISO developed ISBN and ISMN, so I believe those formats would be considered proprietary to ISO. But I don't mean to bicker for the sake of argument -- I'm trying to differentiate between the arbitrary primary identifier, closest to the source of creation and publication, the catalog number, and an additional source of identification into an external system, ISBN/ISMN. I hope that makes sense! Might not be tremendously important, though.

Type/value would certainly be a good solution (I see you've mentioned that before in the archives...just catching up now...I disagree that the URL of a downloadable file would be a sufficient unique identifier)

So, having browsed http://microformats.org/wiki/uid-brainstorming, I'd like to know if you think that the previously-proposed abbr format would work?

<abbr class="uid" title="urn:ismn:555555">5 555 55</abbr>
<abbr class="uid" title="catalog">DTR008</abbr>

I realize I'm rehashing a conversation that already came and went in June, but I'm new to the list.

Thanks,
Justin
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