Kenan: Today, I need to be short.
What is the name of this project to make a folder for it. If the canal has a good head, instead of a canal you may use a pipe to attain head pressure that can be used to produce energy. The rate of filling versus the rate of draining, indeed the reservoir may maintain the reservoir stable for longer time if there is a delta of 50 liter/sec then the reservoir empties not at 0,5M^3/s but a 50 l/s ( assuming the reservoir is initially filled). If you need to have a stable head then the water level loss needs to be limited with those 50 l/s ( 0,05 M^3/s * 3600 sec *24 hours = 4320 liters =4.320 M^3) which represents 10 % of the total volume, so larger the area of the reservoir smaller the change in head of the system. It is important to know the river water volume and as well if there is fish in it. To regulate the system, it is necessary to know all the parameters to make wise decisions -- so let's accumulate all the information possible about the system. The decision of the reservoir size depends of all the parameters that you need to hunt . Regards Nando ----- Original Message ----- From: "candangil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 1:41 AM Subject: [microhydro] Re: required reservoir dimensions > > Nando; > > Now,there is no canal and reservoir.This project is at very > beginning.So I do not know the distance between the river and the > reservoir.I have made a mistake when giving information.The volume of > 0,5 m3/s is valid for 8 months for river.I think the flow rate of > canal will be lower than 0,5 m3/s and the flow rate of turbine will > be lower than the canal flow rate.(Please correct me if I think > wrong).I will try to learn the minimum and maximum values of flow of > river and will inform to you. > > I think the reservoir volume may not be very big.Because the canal > will continue to feed the reservoir when turbine emptying the > reservoir.If the difference between the flow rates(canal and turbine) > is about 50 litre/sec.,it may be sufficient to make the head stable. > > Nando; I do not understand your suggestion about why I need a > reservoir.If I bring the water from directly from the river,I will > not be able to regulate the system,because the river will never give > the constant flow.Please clarify this subject. > > Thank you very much for your kind interest. > > Regards > > Kenan > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Nando" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Kenan: > > > > You are trying to say that you need a canal to bring the water to > the > > reservoir, why don't you, in detail, inform us the distance between > the > > river and the reservoir, plus the height differential ( head) that > should > > exist between the two and, as well, the same between the reservoir > and the > > Banki. > > > > What is the water volume of the river ( minimum and maximum). > > > > By the way you are asking your questions, I see the need that you > give more > > information regarding the system you have in mind -- there many > ways to > > solve a problem that sometimes may exist and one may not think > about, unless > > moor information is giving. > > > > For the 43200 M^3 reservoir with minimum height losses would be if > the water > > level is about not more than 1 meter in height. > > Or about 210 meters by 210 meters by 1 meter deep > > Or about 147 meters by 147 meters by 2 meter deep > > Or about 120 meters by 120 meters by 3 meter deep > > Or about 60 meters by 240 meters by 3 meters deep > > > > As you can see the dimensions can vary all over SO, PLEASE give more > > information if you want better responses > > > > Also, if proper info is giving another solution may be at hand, like > > bringing a pipe from the river it self to attain water pressure > down to the > > Banki -- and why you need a reservoir if you have a river capable of > > furnishing the 0.5 M^3/s or you have not given enough and detailed > > information. > > > > The river may carry fish and it so, then you may not be able to use > all the > > water, so another question arises what is the true water volume of > the > > river. > > > > Regards > > > > Nando > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Nando" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 8:53 AM > > Subject: Re: [microhydro] required reservoir dimensions > > > > > > > Kenan: > > > > > > Minimum 24 hours reservoir for your parameters: > > > > > > 0.5 M^3/sec* 3600 sec/hour * 24 hours = 43200 M^3 = 43,200,000 > liters > > > > > > Then the height of the reservoir level changes due to loss of > water volume > > > needs to be taken in consideration to insure that the 19 meter > head is not > > > affected, which implies that the reservoir level should not > change more > > than > > > a 2 or 3 % of the initial water starting point, resulting in > having a > > > reservoir that maybe much larger in size if the reservoir is > used ,as well > > > as, part of the head of the system. > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Nando > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "M.Kenan Candangil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 2:59 AM > > > Subject: [microhydro] required reservoir dimensions > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group; > > > > > > > > This is my first question.We design a micro hydro > > > > power plant.We select a turbine which requires 0,5 > > > > m3/s flow rate.The turbine will work nearly 24 hours > > > > per day.My question is; > > > > > > > > (Power:65 kW,Head:19 m,Flow:500 litre/s,selected > > > > turbine type:Banki) > > > > > > > > What is the minimum dimensions of the reservoir > > > > (length x width x height) according to the 24 hours > > > > working per day?Also the required canal dimensions are > > > > needed. > > > > > > > > We assume that the amount of water in the river is > > > > enough to feed the turbine. > > > > > > > > Your answers will be highly appreciated. > > > > > > > > Regards. > > > > > > > > Kenan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > > New and Improved Yahoo! 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