Hi Dominic Read,

Not too sure, what point you were trying to make here. To answer the
question: Is it possible to extract energy from flowing water? Yes, it is
possible. Agreed, the speed of the water flowing will depend on the gradient
of the river.

Ghanashyam

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Are we fooling ourselves a little with pretending that there is a difference
between removing kinetic energy from a flowing stream and driving a turbine
with a high head using the potential energy of the water.

In a stream there is a relationship between speed of flow and difference in
height. It may be complex, but its there, and we know it intuitively to some
extent.
If the stream is level then its a lake - it doesnt move - as the difference
in height grows, so does the horizontal component of gravity and so the
horizontal force applied to the water, hence its acceleration. The water
accelerates to the point where the forces holding it back are the same as
the forces pulling it downstream. 

When we talk about using the streams kinetic energy, then what we are doing
is slowing down the water, and in doing so we back it up to some extent. The
more kinetic energy we extract from a stream the more we slow down the flow
of the water, and the more water is backed up. Since the water upstream of
the energy conversion device is now higher than the water downstream then
isnt that the same as using a very small difference in water height?

When we use a pelton wheel or similar driven from a water jet with a large
head then what we are doing is using the difference in height to accelerate
the water and then using the kinetic energy of that water to turn the
turbine. The fact that before the water flowed through the nozzle it had
been in a pipe and then in settling tanks and then in a flowing stream
doesnt really change what we are doing.

I'm still figuring this out so I may have simplified it or complicated it,
but that's my understanding right now.

Dominic Read
Georgia, USA
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Ranjitkar, Ghanashyam 
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  Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 10:18 AM
  Subject: RE: [microhydro] Re: Newbie question: energy estimation from flow
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  Hi there,

  It is possible to extract energy from the flowing water. The potential
  energy will depend on the speed of the water current, normally given in
  meter per second. Just like in wind power, higher the speed higher the
power
  output form the turbine. The turbine that you are looking for is commonly
  knows as water current turbines, and many are still in prototype stages.

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