Hi Mark,

As far as I am aware Thomson & Howe is the only one that has been supplying
pump-as-turbine for micro-hydropower application. There are many sites in
Canada with this system that have been in operation for many years. I have
seen many micro-hydropower systems during my work, I am firm believer in the
pump-as-turbine for micro-hydropower. However, it does have few drawbacks
one needs to be aware of. Depending on the site it is cost effective and
efficient.


Ghanashyam
-----Original Message-----
From: H2MJD [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 1:52 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [microhydro] Re: Looking for Turbine




Hello , Don Scarlett:
    Thanks for the heads up on Thomson & Howe and "Pumps as Turbines" as a
possible solution to my quest. Actually i had purchased that book entitled
"Pumps as Turbines" about three years ago and spent about a year looking for
the right pump(as their formulas dictated) and then proceeded to plumb it in
and wired it up only to be hugely disappointed. At full flow i was supposed
to get about 12 KW and only got about 3KW. I have since removed that
experiment from the power house. I wish i had known about Thomson and Howe
back then, i never did find out why the performance was so bad. Currently i
have a 1KW pelton and a 4 KW pelton on line, both dual nozzles, both direct
drive at 1850 rpm(both just a little mismatched from optimum rpm but hey, no
belts to mess with) and both are induction units utility interfaced at 240
VAC 1 phase. I'm alittle leary of putting a 33KW 240 VAC 1 phase unit on
line because i'm not overly confident of balancing the third phase with no
previous experience of that size.....any reccomendations on schematics or
books i can read up on?

Again thanks for your help.

Mark
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Donald/Elizabeth Scarlett 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 11:48 PM
  Subject: [microhydro] Re: Looking for Turbine



  Hello, Mark Drabick:
      The lowest cost option for a turbine of the head and flow rate you
  describe may well be one or more industrial centrifugal pumps.  It should
be
  possible to match these to your site so that they can be run direct drive
  and operate with efficiencies well over 70%.  The use of multiple pumps
  would be necessary if your available flow varies significantly through the
  year.  I have had excellent results using pumps as turbines on recent
  projects of 25 kW and 18 kW.  I purchased the pumps, suitably sized and
  matched to the application, through Thomson & Howe Energy Systems of
  Kimberley, British Columbia (250-427-4326).
          Regards,
          Don Scarlett
  **********
  Mark:

  You could get one designed to your site if you want  to import it from
  outside the country at a lower price than acquired in USA.
  If interested let me know

  The site's data you provide is good for around 33 or so KW.

  Some times is best to have two units in parallel to assure long term 100 %
  available power.

  Regards

  Nando
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "H2MJD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  To: <[email protected]>
  Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 1:09 PM
  Subject: [microhydro] Looking for Turbine


  >
  >
  > Hey all........I was wondering if anyone out there has any leads on a
  turbine which would fit my site........I'm looking for a cross flow or
  pelton type that would run at 130 ft of head and pass up to 5 cfs.....am
  more than happy to refurbish a "removed from service/used"
unit......thanks,
  Mark Drabick








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