Thanks for the clarification.  This is more closely what I was thinking that
the information that I had read implied.  As stated, I'm not very polished
at all this stuff, just learning it (no practical experience, nor no real
background in electrical systems/theory).

So I guess why question (for subsequent clarification) would be:

Can speed governors help rectify/level out the sensitivity problems with
these high specific speed impulse turbines?  Or does/would the addition of
this extra component negate the cost savings of this PAT(?)

Ugh, I feel that I've gotten in way over my head.  I appreciate people's
patience in helping educate me on this stuff.


-Mark Nagel
Everett, WA
  -----Original Message-----
  From: H2MJD [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 8:31 AM
  To: [email protected]
  Subject: Re: [microhydro] High Specific Speed Impulse Turbines?



  Perhaps Mr. Nagel meant Electronic SPEED governor.....I've always wondered
if speed controllers could be used as power point trackers when doing a
utility interfaced system. My understanding is that some speed controllers
allow for backfeeding the grid......am i wrong?
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Max Enfield
    To: [email protected]
    Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 2:07 AM
    Subject: Re: [microhydro] High Specific Speed Impulse Turbines?



    [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
    >
    > While trying to track down information on Pump As Turbine (PAT) I ran
across "High Specific Speed Impulse Turbines."
    >
    > NOTE: I'm just a novice with all this stuff, but isn't the issue that
these folks are looking to overcome addressed for PAT by using electronic
load controllers?
    >
    > BTW - PAT looks really great for small installations (and for
long-term viability [pumps being ubiquitous]).
    >
    > -Mark Nagel
    > Everett, WA

    A detailed discussion of "specific speed" can be found in any textbook
on
    hydro-power.  Briefly, it is a number dependent on the geometry of a
turbine.
    If head, rpm and output efficiency are held constant, then the higher
the flow
    rate a turbine can handle, the higher will be its specific speed.   So,
for
    example adding more jets to a Pelton wheel will increase its specific
speed.

    It has nothing to do with electronic load governors.

    Regards,

    Max Enfield
    Planetary Power



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