Michael, Thank you for your precious advise.
I'll try to et the FIDIC yellow book. What do you mean by C&I? Best regards Remi ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Friedhoff To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2005 11:51 AM Subject: RE: [microhydro] Turbines commercial contract Remi, I would suggest that you get yourself a copy of the FIDIC yellow book (see below), which is to my knowledge the most widely used standard contract for this type of project. It is easily adaptable to all sorts of projects and usually accepted by the contractors. You should work out a contract based on this document before entering into negotiations with the suppliers, as the conditions of contract (warranty, terms of payment, risk, insurance, performance guarantees, dispute resolution etc.) will affect the price for the equipment. Your position during the negotiations will also be much better if you come prepared. Alternatively, I am sure the supplier will have his own proposal for the contract, which will usually give you a lower price, but may leave you in a poor position if something goes not according to plan. As 2 x 1.2 MW is probably your private MICRO project, and you are probably responsible to your employer, I would suggest you use the first method. BTW, I have used FIDIC for much smaller projects. As for the Chinese made equipment: In my experience you get what you pay for. If you decide to save the money, you will have to have much (!!) stricter supervision on site during erection and commissioning. Try to get at least the C&I part from a western manufacturer. After sales service is also not the best. Mike FIDIC: Conditions of Contract for PLANT and Design-Build FOR ELECTRICAL AND MECHANICAL WORKS AND FOR BUILDING AND ENGINEERING WORKS DESIGNED BY THE CONTRACTOR > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rémi Berthet > Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 05:28 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [microhydro] Turbines commercial contract > > Hi all! > > I work on a small hydropower project in Northern Laos (2 x > 1.2 MW, Horizontal Francis). I am still hesitating between > european suppliers, and chinese supplier (much closer) for > the hydroelectrical equipment. Chinese are about 60% cheapper > (!!!!), even if quality is not the same, that got to make me think! > I decided to go to China pretty soon to visit suppliers and > the HRC (http://www.hrcshp.org) in Hangzhou as China is quite > close from here, but before getting there and entering into a > negotiation, I would like to get a draft commercial contract > for turbine purchasing, as it is my first time purchasing > such an equipment, in order to identify all the issues > related to this kind of contract (guarantee, maintenance, > payment conditions etc..). > > So if by any chance you have an old turbine purchasing > contract, or a draft or something that can help me to > identify the main issues that I have to be aware of, please > let me know!! > > Nice day to all of you > > > Rémi BERTHET > Project Manager > NamNhone HydroPower Co > 0085621314261 (Office) > 00856207810630 (Mobile) > 00856305256701 (Site) > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! 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