Eric,
When I was with AIA I used to attend meetings often held at the Boeing
engineering facility in Renton, one of which was always scheduled in June. When
each of my kids turned 13 I took them out with me for a week. A friend at
Boeing arranged for the boys to get about 30 minutes of sim time with a
training captain at the Boeing training facility at Longacres. Once was in a
767 and the other a 737. It was an experience they still talk about.
Bob Robeson
On Saturday, August 16, 2025 at 09:25:02 AM EDT, ERIC Smith via Mifnet
<[email protected]> wrote:
One reason pilots decide to do stupid things is that they're cheap. This guy
could have rented some simulator time. His family could have watched him handle
engine failures, hydraulic failures, TCAS RAs....lots more fun than watching
the gear and flaps come up then auto pilot on. For the mifnetters around
the DC area there is a 737 simulator which costs about $150/hour near
Rockville. It's a real 737-800 cockpit and the visuals are fantastic. While you
sit in the left seat the monitor sits in the right seat with an ipad from which
he runs the software. With only 6-ft long jacks you get only gentle motion from
it but it does actually move. You could probably split S into the ground and
not feel much to be honest, because more motion probably means more
maintenance. I don't know how functional are the switches because we
didn't try to run any emergencies. My light airplane friends had their hands
full as it was. Maybe next time. Eric
On 08/16/2025 5:15 AM EDT srbrown via Mifnet <[email protected]> wrote:
"Pilots can be stupid." Sadly, like all people, that's true. Pity
there's always that 5% or so in the profession that are retarded enough to
tarnish the rest. Maybe they're the ones that have been sniffing the chemtrail
fumes. I mean, what's wrong with mounting a GoPro like many others which
you can also hook into the intercom and radio? I'd be interested to know
exactly what sanctions, if any, were given to him. To both pilots, in fact, as
the other had to be in agreement. Add to that the senior cabin crew member who
could have insisted or even phoned the company before take off when they knew
what was going on? On the limited information we have it appears a cut
and dried case for summary (ie instant) dismissal, perhaps for both pilots, and
possibly suspension of their licences as this is a clear violation of
regulations. Actions like this immediately brings into question whether each is
a "fit and proper person" to hold an ATPL. (Yes, that is one of the criteria
for an ATPL and Class 1 medical). Simon -------- Original message
-------- From: Jack Keady via Mifnet <[email protected]> Date:
16/08/2025 06:26 (GMT+00:00) To: David Wardell via Mifnet
<[email protected]> Cc: Jack Keady <[email protected]> Subject: [Mifnet
🛰 73635] Re: British Airways Pilot Left Cockpit Door Open So His Family Could
See Him At The Controls... And He's Still Allowed To Fly Pilots can be
stupid. Also suicidal. Notice how the AI crash s totally old news
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On Fri, Aug 15, 2025 at 22:21, Jack Keady <[email protected]> wrote:
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Cc: Sent: Fri, Aug 15, 2025 at 18:47 Subject: British Airways Pilot
Left Cockpit Door Open So His Family Could See Him At The Controls... And He's
Still Allowed To Fly
www.paddleyourownkanoo.com
British Airways Pilot Left Cockpit Door Open So His Family Could See Him At The
Controls... And He's Still Allowed To Fly
A British Airways pilot operating an international flight to New York JFK
allegedly left the cockpit door open during takeoff so his family members who
were passengers on the packed plane could watch him at the controls. Sources
told The Sun that the cockpit door remained open for a “significant” amount of
time after takeoff…
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https://www.paddleyourownkanoo.com/2025/08/15/british-airways-pilot-left-cockpit-door-open-so-his-family-could-see-him-at-the-controls-and-hes-still-allowed-to-fly/
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