As we left the sim one friend turned to the other and said, "Boy am I tired." I said maybe next time I'll fail an engine on you and see you tired you get then.
Eric
On 08/16/2025 12:25 PM EDT Bob Robeson via Mifnet <[email protected]> wrote:Eric,When I was with AIA I used to attend meetings often held at the Boeing engineering facility in Renton, one of which was always scheduled in June. When each of my kids turned 13 I took them out with me for a week. A friend at Boeing arranged for the boys to get about 30 minutes of sim time with a training captain at the Boeing training facility at Longacres. Once was in a 767 and the other a 737. It was an experience they still talk about.Bob Robeson--------------------------------------------------------------------------On Saturday, August 16, 2025 at 09:25:02 AM EDT, ERIC Smith via Mifnet <[email protected]> wrote:--------------------------------------------------------------------------One reason pilots decide to do stupid things is that they're cheap. This guy could have rented some simulator time. His family could have watched him handle engine failures, hydraulic failures, TCAS RAs....lots more fun than watching the gear and flaps come up then auto pilot on.For the mifnetters around the DC area there is a 737 simulator which costs about $150/hour near Rockville. It's a real 737-800 cockpit and the visuals are fantastic. While you sit in the left seat the monitor sits in the right seat with an ipad from which he runs the software. With only 6-ft long jacks you get only gentle motion from it but it does actually move. You could probably split S into the ground and not feel much to be honest, because more motion probably means more maintenance.I don't know how functional are the switches because we didn't try to run any emergencies. My light airplane friends had their hands full as it was. Maybe next time.EricOn 08/16/2025 5:15 AM EDT srbrown via Mifnet <[email protected]> wrote:"Pilots can be stupid."Sadly, like all people, that's true. Pity there's always that 5% or so in the profession that are retarded enough to tarnish the rest. Maybe they're the ones that have been sniffing the chemtrail fumes.I mean, what's wrong with mounting a GoPro like many others which you can also hook into the intercom and radio?I'd be interested to know exactly what sanctions, if any, were given to him. To both pilots, in fact, as the other had to be in agreement. Add to that the senior cabin crew member who could have insisted or even phoned the company before take off when they knew what was going on?On the limited information we have it appears a cut and dried case for summary (ie instant) dismissal, perhaps for both pilots, and possibly suspension of their licences as this is a clear violation of regulations. Actions like this immediately brings into question whether each is a "fit and proper person" to hold an ATPL. (Yes, that is one of the criteria for an ATPL and Class 1 medical).SimonPilots can be stupid. Also suicidal. Notice how the AI crash s totally old news-------- Original message --------From: Jack Keady via Mifnet <[email protected]>Date: 16/08/2025 06:26 (GMT+00:00)To: David Wardell via Mifnet <[email protected]>Cc: Jack Keady <[email protected]>Subject: [Mifnet 🛰 73635] Re: British Airways Pilot Left Cockpit Door Open So His Family Could See Him At The Controls... And He's Still Allowed To Fly
--------------------------------------------------------------------------On Fri, Aug 15, 2025 at 22:21, Jack Keady<[email protected]> wrote:
Sent: Fri, Aug 15, 2025 at 18:47Subject: British Airways Pilot Left Cockpit Door Open So His Family Could See Him At The Controls... And He's Still Allowed To Fly![]()
A British Airways pilot operating an international flight to New York JFK allegedly left the cockpit door open during takeoff so his family members who were passengers on the packed plane could watch him at the controls. Sources told The Sun that the cockpit door remained open for a “significant” amount of time after takeoff…
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