I strongly support David Wardell's suggestion to "move on" from this topic. I would only add that I recently observed that the Mifnet occasionally suffered from a liberal political bias that detracted from its mission as a professional aviation organization. It seems that the recent post(s) that led to David's suggestion appear to validate this unfortunate tendency and have no proper place in the role of this organization.
Bob K On Thu, Sep 18, 2025 at 5:28 PM David Wardell via Mifnet < [email protected]> wrote: > All, > > > > Please note: responding to the general thread and not to any specific post. > > > > As Mike has so aptly observed, we are now in NNN territory. > > > > For those who are new to the list, we implemented “NNN” some years ago as a > tag that would identify posts/threads that lack much aviation-related > content. I suggested “NNN” as this was the telegraphic code that could mean > several things but often advised a receiving operator to ignore a message. > At one time there was a software routine in the Mifnet system that would > inhibit sending “NNN” message to list members who elected to ignore them. > This process was more cumbersome technologically than it sounds. > > > > Alas, that was several versions of Mifnet past. I’d revive that process if > I could think of a way to do so. > > > > May I kindly suggest that this thread has run its productive course, and > that it’s time to move on? > > > > All the best, > > > > DW > > > > > > > > David Wardell > > (757) 561-0582 > > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > > > > > <https://wardell.us/url/b5s86> > > <https://wardell.us/url/s9qvz> > > > > > > > > > From: Mike Borfitz via Mifnet <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2025 3:12 PM > To: [email protected] > Cc: breton lobner <[email protected]>; [email protected]; Mike Borfitz > <[email protected]> > Subject: [Mifnet 🛰 74194] Re: craziest idea of the day > > > > Well, this has clearly gone into NNN territory. Brings to mind some > polarizing dialogues that led to NNN. Chased a few folks away if memory > serves. > > > > I just watched those fights because they became shouting matches and I was > having one of my own with a couple fellow engineers who were instrumental > in > my career development. It was very painful. I have to step up. > > > > So for the record: > > * Firing Kimmel (not a suspension, he's gone), has sent a chill > through the media & the autocrats continue to win. > * Trump is a full-blown autocrat & wrecking ball. > * Mid-terms may be our last hope, considering how much long-term > damage he's already done in just a few months. > * If the mid-terms help slow things down our legal system MIGHT have > a > chance to help. > * If (if) we can make things right it will take 20-30 years to > recover > internally and God knows how long to restore our international reputation. > * It's really curious that his 1500 pardoned, violent criminals have > been very very quiet. Can Trump just snap his fingers & activate his > private > militia? > * With or without a militia, will the threats & killings accelerate? > * I am NOT Chicken Little and I am very nervous. > * And yes I have participated in peaceful demonstrations & helped to > fund the ACLU & SPLC. If I see people in masks making arrests aka > kidnapping, I will speak up in real time. > > That's all I have to say, I will not debate. > > > > Mike Borfitz, DER > > > > Cell 206-714-8797 > > e-Mail: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > Kilroy Aviation LLC > > Website: <http://www.faaoda.com/> WWW.FAAODA.COM > > > > Kilroy is available for aviation regulatory and safety issues > > - Type & Production Certification, Continued Operational Safety > > - International validation & safety matters > > - Program & system management > > - FAA STC ODA > > > > On Thu, Sep 18, 2025, 2:06 PM Robert Ditchey via Mifnet > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: > > How can a “balanced” approach be viable in light of the rhetoric that > emerges constantly from the Oval Office? Trump says that Democrats (and > any > opposition) are “scum” and “evil.” Pam Bondi has no idea what the First > Amendment really requires. In the presence (and real threat) of an > autocrat, there can be no “balanced approach.” > > We are in a Constitutional crisis and balance does not work. Kimmel was > just exercising his right of free speech. You don’t have to agree with him > but it is VERY wrong to take him off the air. Just say you don’t agree, > which is your First Amendment right. > > > > Bob Ditchey > > > > From: breton lobner via Mifnet <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > > Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2025 10:44 AM > To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Cc: breton lobner <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > Subject: [Mifnet 🛰 74189] Re: craziest idea of the day > > > > Jay Leno made a comment some time ago that a balanced approach works. > Colbert sings only one tune. It becomes tedious and boring after a while. > Now Kimmel seems to be singing the same song. I vote for more balance and > less politics. BKL > > > > On Thu, Sep 18, 2025, 10:36 AM Jack Keady via Mifnet > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: > > keady - crazy idea. But i would love to see an airline promote "unlimited > Colbert and Kimmel" on each fllight > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Revised: 20250507 > > You are receiving The Mifnet because you requested to join this list. > > The Mifnet is largely a labor of love, however the infrastructure isn't > exactly cost-free. 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