Sorry to chime in on this thread so late.
I'm not sure I understand everything correctly but it seemed like Pramod was
asking why we maintained values for the counter in the DB for products for
which "Include in loan cycle counter" is not checked.
*Emily - *if I'm not mistaken, isn't this so that if you do eventually edit
the loan product and change the product to track loan cycle, it has the data
to show in the loan cycle counter in the performance history (e.g .values
are tracked historically, not just moving forward from when you check the
box)?
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 10:28 PM, Emily Tucker <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> One correction to this mail. Nandini reminded me that while we track
> "loan cycle per product" for both groups and loans, we don't track loan
> cycle # aggregate at the group level (the # that is incremented when
> "include in loan cycle" is turned on). This is only tracked at the client
> level.
>
>
>
> Thanks Nandini!
>
> Emily.
>
>
>
> *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Emily Tucker
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 24, 2008 3:46 PM
> *To:* 'Developer'; 'Mifos functional discussions'
> *Cc:* 'Malini Gowrishankar'
> *Subject:* Re: [Mifos-developer] Loan cycle counter is maintained even
> if"Include in Loan Cycle counter" is not selected
>
>
>
> Hi Pramod,
>
>
>
> I'm not sure if this will answer your question, but let me try... this is
> an answer from a *functional* perspective, not quite sure what is happening
> on the code side...
>
>
>
> There are two loan counters displayed to the user. The first is tracked at
> the client or group level (and is tracked when the "include in loan cycle"
> is checked) and the other is tracked at the product level and is *always*
> tracked.
>
> http://mifos.org/knowledge/functional-specs/clients#Loan_cycle_per_product
>
>
>
> So, for example, let's say I've successfully repaid the following loans:
>
> 3 "Income Generation Loans" (which have "include in loan cycle" turned ON)
>
> 2 Emergency Loans (which have "include in loan cycle" turned OFF)
>
> 4 Festival Loans (which have "include in loan cycle" turned OFF)
>
>
>
> This is what should be listed in my perf history:
>
>
>
> Loan Cycle #: 3
>
> Loan Cycle per Product
>
> Income Generation Loan: 3
>
> Emergency Loan: 2
>
> Festival Loan: 4
>
>
>
> We have done testing on the loan cycle counter for v1.1 and it was working
> correctly. If I understood the issue correctly...I saw that you fixed a
> "bug" that changed where these values were picked up from. However, I'm
> worried that you've actually introduced a bug by making this change.... not
> sure, but just wanted to call this out.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Emily.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Pramod
> Biligiri
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 23, 2008 3:18 AM
> *To:* Mifos functional discussions; Developer
> *Cc:* Malini Gowrishankar
> *Subject:* [Mifos-developer] Loan cycle counter is maintained even if
> "Include in Loan Cycle counter" is not selected
>
>
>
>
> Hi,
> If you create a loan account based on a product with "Include in loan cycle
> counter" not checked, a tuple STILL gets inserted into loan_counter (or
> group_loan_counter as appropriate). This loan counter value increments or
> decrements depending on whether you disburse or cancel loans related to that
> product.
>
> However, in the Performance History section of a Group/Client's page, such
> products are not shown (which is entirely correct).
>
> *Our question is*: why is the counter maintained at all, for these kind of
> products, when it is not displayed in the UI or used anywhere in the
> business logic?
>
> Also, even if this option is not selected, you can set the loan product
> amounts to be based on the loan cycle number! Which looks like a bug to us.
>
> We couldn't find any other unexpected behaviour in Mifos.
>
> There is some related discussion about this in bug 1734
> (https://mifos.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=1734, search for
> "Additional comments from emilytucker").
>
> Pramod and Malini,
> ThoughtWorks
>
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