Hi Stephen,
Great to see you on the mailing list again!
Questions around upgrades should typically be sent to the user forum. The
dev forum is really for conversations about code, etc....
On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Stephen Kaufman <skauf...@schawk.com>wrote:
> Very helpful Keith,
>
> Great answers. We are working on an upgrade. We got from 1.3 to 1.5 but
> then ran into some problems. Should we address the "dev" forum on that issue
> or "user".
>
> Great memory by the way.
>
> Stephen
>
>
> From: Keith Woodlock <keithwoodl...@gmail.com>
> Reply-To: Mifos User <mifos-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
> Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 14:11:15 +0100
> To: Mifos User <mifos-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
> Subject: Re: [Mifos-users] Future Dating Transactions to prepare for
> multiple disbursals
>
> Stephen,
>
> Its hard to remember all the way back to 1.3, I think we cleared up the
> error message around this in the latest mifos 2.2.
>
> But as you say, its most likely to do with the way mifos is tied to meeting
> schedules. So your group meets every other tuesday (just to be clear that
> means tuesday every 2 weeks?), this meeting schedule is tied to the center
> meeting schedule so if center meeting schedule was
>
> Tues 19th July 2011
> Tues 2nd Aug 2011
> Tues 16th Aug 2011
>
> and the group was then created/activated on say 30th of July, its meeting
> schedule should match center schedule and start from:
>
> Tues 2nd Aug 2011
> Tues 16th Aug 2011
> etc
>
> mifos expects the disbursement to happen on the next meeting date after it
> has being approved (i think) which should fall on one of these tuesday every
> 2 weeks dates, so with loan being approved on Tues 16th Aug 2011, expected
> disbursement is Tues 30th Aug 2011 etc.
>
> However, there were issues with support of loan schedule of the form every
> x weeks, where x was greater than one, These issues may of existed all the
> way back to 1.3 but they were fixed in 2.1.3 i believe.
>
> It might be hard for you to test this yourself but would need to:
>
> on test instance:
> You might create a center/group/loan product where repayments are made
> every 1 week on tuesday and approve/disburse loan to see if it works
> correctly. (it should)
>
> then you can create a brand new center/group/loan product where repayments
> are made every 2 weeks on tuesday and approve/disburse loan to see if it
> works (it should)
>
> where the problem came up before is if the group is created on the 'in
> betweeen' week of the centers meeting schedule, so based on example above,
> if the group was created and activated (not on 30th of july) but on 4th of
> Aug, it would pick up the wrong meeting schedule and not match centers but
> be off by 1 week all the time.
>
> regards,
> Keith.
>
> On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 1:39 PM, Stephen Kaufman <skauf...@schawk.com>wrote:
>
>> Thanks Keith,
>>
>> We are working on an upgrade from 1.3, so thanks for that heads up.
>>
>> We were entering a disbursal date in the future and were getting an
>> "invalid date" error.
>>
>> The problem was the the group (as inherited from the Center) meets every
>> OTHER Tuesday, and we were asking for the wrong Tuesday.
>>
>> How does Mifos determine which Tuesday you are starting with when you set
>> up group Schedule?
>>
>> If I can't hemp them, it makes disbursals for all their group a bit of
>> trial and error.
>>
>> Thanks for your help!
>>
>> Stephen Kaufman
>> International Aid Services – America
>>
>>
>> *
>>
>> *
>>
>> From: Keith Woodlock <keithwoodl...@gmail.com>
>>
>> Reply-To: Mifos User <mifos-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
>> Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 15:43:20 +0100
>>
>> To: Mifos User <mifos-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Mifos-users] Future Dating Transactions to prepare for
>> multiple disbursals
>>
>> Stephen,
>>
>> As far as i understand this is something that is the norm on mifos.
>>
>> Also noticed you are on 1.3.x version, there have been lots of
>> improvements added since then, it might be worth stepping through the
>> upgrades to latest stable version of mifos or are you locked on 1.3 for a
>> reason?
>>
>> regards,
>> Keith.
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 6:19 PM, Stephen Kaufman <skauf...@schawk.com>wrote:
>>
>>> I have an MFI that wants to enter loan disbursal BEFORE the actual
>>> disbursal. So for example, they might want to enter 10 loans today (Aug 9th,
>>> that they will actually disburse on Sept 1st. Can this be done?
>>>
>>> Operating System / Arch / Version Linux / i386 / 2.6.21.7-2.fc8xen Java
>>> Vendor / Version Sun Microsystems Inc. / 1.6.0_20 Database Vendor /
>>> Version MySQL / 5.0.51a-3ubuntu5.7 Database Driver / Version MySQL-AB
>>> JDBC Driver / mysql-connector-java-5.1.6 ( Revision: ${svn.Revision} )
>>> Application
>>> Server Apache Tomcat/6.0.20 Mifos Database Version 212 Subversion
>>> Revision Number branches/v1.3.x/application@15399
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: AMIT JAIN <amitjain....@gmail.com>
>>> Reply-To: Mifos User <mifos-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
>>> Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2011 13:39:58 +0530
>>> To: Mifos User <mifos-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
>>> Subject: [Mifos-users] Work Flow
>>>
>>> Dear All,
>>> We are using MIfos since 2009 but still we have confusion regarding the
>>> data entry Or searching the exact work flow.
>>> I require help how to match mifos with my daily field activity.
>>> Daily Field activity.
>>>
>>> Collection of KYC--->Screening (adding and substraction of KYC to full
>>> fill the center limit ie 15, 20, 25 in multiple of 5)------->Three days
>>> training (CGT)---
>>> ------> after that GRT (fails or Pass) if Pass (till here we are not
>>> putting any data into Mifos.
>>> Problem is there we have to put data in mifos at the time of
>>> disbursement because of CENTER MEETING day once it is given we have to
>>> disburse the loan on same day.
>>> Some times we have to disburse 300 member in a day and also made the
>>> disbursements after giving the physical disbursement.because sometimes it is
>>> possible that might be disbursement doesn't takes place.
>>>
>>> Our desire how to work with Mifos.
>>>
>>> After the screening of KYC we are assure that 99% chances of disbursement
>>> takes place in particular center.
>>> One Important thing that we are operating our operations like member
>>> active and loans generation and disbursements centrally. Means these
>>> particular actions has been done other than branch ie HUB.
>>>
>>> In Mifos
>>> We require to form a center with out center meeting day and forms a group
>>> and clients into inactive stage.
>>> As soon as the GRT takes place means Members are passed at that time we
>>> have to change their stage as active (Still we don't require a center
>>> meeting day)
>>> Now the loan approval stage HERE IT REQUIRES A CENTER MEETING DAY which
>>> does not means to give a center meeting day here instead of that mifos will
>>> ask to us on which date and day you want to disburse the loan OR on which
>>> day and date you want to collect the EMIs IT IS LOGICAL because we meet with
>>> members only for the collection on a particular day.
>>>
>>> This process solve all the problems.
>>>
>>> If you have any idea OR you have any other Modes operand ii please tell.
>>>
>>> Your suggestion are always welcome.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> --
>>> AMIT JAIN | E.D | Digamber Finance (Chota Loan Bade Sapne) |
>>> +919414041821 |
>>> www.digamberfinance.com
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