Hello Olivier,

I'm not completely sure about what a "center" is.
>> Center can be a meeting place. In Mifos, Center is at higher level >>
then followed by Group which can be associated to Center>> then followed by
clients which can be associated to Group.

Does Mifos expect every group to be part of a center ?
>> No, You can also only create group without creating center & associating
to them.

And is it really so that every group of a center must have the same
meetings?
>> Yes, When you attach Meeting to a Center, associated group automatically
inherit Center's meeting date.

(I can't assign a meeting to a group that is part of a center, and I can't
add a group that has a meeting to a center).
>> If the Group is associated with Center, You cant attach meeting from
group level/page. If you are seeing the attach meeting drop-down in group
page then it should be a bug. If you are using latest Mifos X version
15.09.2, it shouldn't showing.

Here, we have some groups that are federated in what could be called a
"center" (but still, each group meets separately), but most groups aren't
part of a center.
>> Since the meetings doesn't take place on same meeting date for all the
groups. I could suggest not use Center, so that you could create Group's
separately with different meeting date.

Also, isn't there some kind of "general" collection sheet, which would show
all expected upcoming payments ?
>> Collection sheet should be able to meet your mentioned requirements.

I would be happy to demonstrate a complete Collection sheet process, if you
could come on skype.

Thanks,
Sangamesh



On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 7:17 PM, Olivier Dalang <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Dear List and Sangamesh and Srinivasa,
>
> OK indeed it works when the meeting is defined on the center.
>
> I'm not completely sure about what a "center" is. Does Mifos expect every
> group to be part of a center ? And is it really so that every group of a
> center must have the same meetings ? (I can't assign a meeting to a group
> that is part of a center, and I can't add a group that has a meeting to a
> center).
>
> Here, we have some groups that are federated in what could be called a
> "center" (but still, each group meets separately), but most groups aren't
> part of a center.
>
> So I'm still stuck at using collection sheets...
>
> Also, isn't there some kind of "general" collection sheet, which would
> show all expected upcomming payements ? To me, it seems very easy to miss
> payments : If I'm not mistaken, you need to have every client well assigned
> to its group, every group well assigned to its center, the employee well
> assigned to the loan, the meeting date well assigned to the group, all of
> those well assigned to the office, and still select a correct "meeting
> date" in the "collection sheet" page, which means you have to know the
> upcomming meeting dates.
>
>
> Thanks a lot for your support !
>
> Olivier
>
>
>
> 2015-09-14 4:03 GMT+00:00 Sangamesh Nadagoudar <
> [email protected]>:
>
>> Hello Olivier,
>>
>> Many thanks for trying out by yourself. I would be happy to help you in
>> demonstrating complete process. And also would be able to answer all your
>> queries with respect to Mifos X. Could you please reach me out over
>> skype:mifos.support.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Sangamesh
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 9:44 PM, Olivier Dalang <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> OK so I'm making progress in understanding how to use Mifos. Thanks a
>>> lot for your reactivity !
>>>
>>> Still, I didn't manage to make collection sheets work
>>>
>>> I tried the following :
>>>
>>> - create an employee "employee1"
>>>
>>> - create a group "group1"
>>> - assign "employee1" to "group1"
>>> - attach a monthly meeting
>>>
>>> - create a client "client1"
>>> - assign "employee1" to "client1"
>>> - create a JLG loan to "client1", and sync the reimbursments with the
>>> group meetings
>>> - assign "employee1" to that loan
>>> - disburse the loan
>>>
>>> - create a client "client2"
>>> - assign "employee1" to "client2"
>>> - create a JLG loan to "client2", and sync the reimbursments with the
>>> group meetings, with disbusment date to next meeting
>>> - assign "employee1" to that loan
>>> - disburse the loan
>>>
>>>
>>> Then, under "collection sheet", I enter an upcomming meeting date,
>>> choose my staff, and click on the "productive collection sheet" button but
>>> get an empty result (a table showing only "attendance").
>>> I can't use the "collection sheet" button, since I can't find my group
>>> in the drop down menu (probably because the group is not part of a center).
>>>
>>> Under "individual collection sheet", no matter what I enter, I always
>>> get "No repayments and disbursal are available for selected Group and
>>> meeting date".
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Am I missing something ? (I'm using Release Version: *15.09.2.RELEASE*,
>>> since I saw some bug about collection sheet have been fixed).
>>>
>>> I'd love to see some demonstration/documentation of this feature
>>> (starting from a blank or near blank installation) to understand it fully.
>>> Ed Cable made a demonstration installation for us, I'd happily provide
>>> credentials in private to anyone willing to enter dummy data to demonstrate
>>> it.
>>>
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Olivier
>>>
>>>
>>> 2015-09-07 19:59 GMT+00:00 <[email protected]>:
>>> >
>>> > Hi Oliver,
>>> >
>>> > Copying the reports to the location at which they are being searched
>>> for ie /usr/share/tomcat7/.mifosx/pentahoReports should fix the first issue
>>> >
>>> > Regarding configuring income accounts for fees, the first section
>>> allows you to map all fees linked to the particular savings product to an
>>> income or liability account . However, if you want more flexibility , ie
>>> mapping specific fees or penalties to specific income or liability accounts
>>> (useful when you have a number of fees linked to the product and some fees
>>> are pass through etc) , you would make use of the advanced accounting
>>> section
>>> >
>>> > You can ignore the missing Uiconfig.json file ( used for customizing
>>> the Ui , hiding specific fields , setting default values for drop downs etc
>>> )
>>> >
>>> > Regards,
>>> > Vishwas
>>> >
>>> > On Sep 7, 2015, at 6:47 PM, Olivier Dalang <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Hi,
>>> >
>>> > Thanks for all your answers. (I didn't get notified by email so I
>>> didn't see you answered so quickly !)
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ## 1. Transaction reciepts
>>> >
>>> > I copied the folder as you said (to /home/tomcat7/.mifosx), and
>>> restarted the server. but still get the following error when I click on
>>> "View reciept" :
>>> >
>>> > {"developerMessage":"The request caused a data integrity issue to be
>>> fired by the database.","httpStatusCode":"403","defaultUserMessage":"Unable
>>> to create key: No loader was able to handle the given key data:
>>> /usr/share/tomcat7/.mifosx/pentahoReports/Loan Transaction
>>> Receipt.prpt","userMessageGlobalisationCode":"error.msg.reporting.error","errors":[{"developerMessage":"Unable
>>> to create key: No loader was able to handle the given key data:
>>> /usr/share/tomcat7/.mifosx/pentahoReports/Loan Transaction
>>> Receipt.prpt","defaultUserMessage":"Unable to create key: No loader was
>>> able to handle the given key data:
>>> /usr/share/tomcat7/.mifosx/pentahoReports/Loan Transaction
>>> Receipt.prpt","userMessageGlobalisationCode":"error.msg.reporting.error","parameterName":null,"value":null,"args":[]}]}
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ## 3. Fees for the group
>>> >
>>> > I need some help on this. On the saving product page, I can indeed
>>> assign the fee to a specific income account. It seems I can set this both
>>> under the "income from fees" dropdown from the "income" section and under
>>> "Map Fees to Income Accounts" from the "
>>> > Advanced Accounting Rule" section. What is the difference ?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ## 4. Javascript errors
>>> >
>>> > Among the errors I get, two 404 happen at initial loading :
>>> > - https://127.0.0.1:8443/community-app/scripts/config/UIconfig.json
>>> > -
>>> https://127.0.0.1:8443/community-app/angular/i18n/angular-locale_en.js
>>> >
>>> > May this indicate an installation problem ? I have some other bugs
>>> too, for instance I can't add a new payment type (error seems server-side
>>> though). I'll report in detail once I try to install to our production
>>> server.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Best regards !
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Olivier Dalang
>>> >
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