FWIW this is what I'm doing.  I have a bigger pipe that gets /22 and /22
where the smaller pipe gets /23


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On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 2:53 PM, Shawn C. Peppers via Mikrotik-users <
mikrotik-users@wispa.org> wrote:

> Yes.
> Example...
> If you have a /22 total
>
> A
> /24
> /22
>
> C
> /22
>
> S
> /24
> /22
>
> In this event all routers would announce your whole /22 ip block.
>
> But...A and S would be announcing out smaller more specific ip blocks of
> the /22 making the specific /24 traffic to follow that specific router.
>
> In the event something failed traffic would follow one of the other
> routers.
>
> If you need your failover traffic to be more controlled you would have to
> use bgp filters to prepend and weight.
>
>
>
> Shawn C. Peppers
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>
> > On Nov 1, 2017, at 1:44 PM, Ethan E. Dee via Mikrotik-users <
> mikrotik-users@wispa.org> wrote:
> >
> > If I advertise a summarized subnet to C and more specific subnets to A
> > and S, would C only failover in event of losing A or S?
> >
> >
> >> On 11/1/2017 10:45 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
> >> Feel free to call me..
> >>
> >> 305 921 4141
> >>
> >>
> >> Faisal Imtiaz
> >> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> >> http://www.snappytelecom.net
> >>
> >> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
> >>
> >> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Ethan E. Dee" <e...@globalvision.net>
> >>> To: "Faisal Imtiaz" <fai...@snappytelecom.net>
> >>> Cc: "Mikrotik Users" <mikrotik-users@wispa.org>
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 10:31:41 AM
> >>> Subject: Re: [Mikrotik Users] BGP Question
> >>> I'm confused as to why I need iBGP in order to maintain traffic outside
> >>> of my network. Is iBGP able to make changes to my eBGP peering sessions
> >>> that would be helpful to my cause? Or are you just saying I should be
> >>> running iBGP internally to make things less messy in general?
> >>>
> >>> It is possible it is going over my head. Would you be able call me and
> >>> explain?
> >>>
> >>>> On 11/1/2017 10:09 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
> >>>> See answers inline ..
> >>>>
> >>>> Faisal Imtiaz
> >>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> >>>> http://www.snappytelecom.net
> >>>>
> >>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
> >>>>
> >>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
> >>>>
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>> From: "Ethan E. Dee" <e...@globalvision.net>
> >>>>> To: "Faisal Imtiaz" <fai...@snappytelecom.net>, "Mikrotik Users"
> >>>>> <mikrotik-users@wispa.org>
> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 9:51:56 AM
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Mikrotik Users] BGP Question
> >>>>> I am only referring to traffic leaving the internet and entering my
> network.
> >>>> This is called inbound traffic... yes that is exactly what I was
> talking about
> >>>> too.
> >>>>> I do not want A's traffic to come in thru C unless it is absolutely
> >>>>> dire. i.e. the BGP session on A quits or the router itself dies.
> >>>>>
> >>>> I understand, what you desire to do.. however it may not match up to
> what your
> >>>> Upstream Desires..
> >>>> (e.g. if you advertise A's prefix as 'normal' and C's prefix as
> 'backup'... A's
> >>>> network will see C as local connected and insist on using it over an
> external
> >>>> route)
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> I have tried setting BGP prepend to 16x on C.
> >>>> Like I said, that will not work for you...
> >>>>
> >>>>> I have used At&t and Charter Communities to announce a different
> local
> >>>>> pref (100 on At&t 70 on Charter.)
> >>>>>
> >>>> Sort of right track, but you have to evaluate as to how they have
> their network
> >>>> configured.
> >>>> Keep in mind Local Pref is only Local to that ASN.. you have to look
> at their
> >>>> network traffic engineering to determine if you are making yourself
> more
> >>>> attractive or less attractive ... and use the local pref figures
> comparative to
> >>>> their's.... i.e. local pref of 70 does not mean the same thing on all
> networks
> >>>> ! (it is a relative parameter)
> >>>>
> >>>>> No luck. Looking at the looking glass, Charter is largely the
> preferred
> >>>>> path for HE. See attached.
> >>>> Welcome to solving a 3 dimensional equation... Charter may be
> Purchasing IP
> >>>> Transit from HE or peering with HE....
> >>>> Which would explain this..
> >>>>
> >>>>> Get a similar answer from Cogent's looking glass.
> >>>> Not sure if you are reading the 'details' as some of the LG's show..
> or just the
> >>>> 'best path' along with ASN's
> >>>>> I am using OSPF as my IGP btw. I can route the traffic out the
> correct
> >>>>> router just fine. It is the returning traffic I have a problem with.
> >>>>>
> >>>> This is not the proper way to do things...
> >>>> The recommended best practices are :-
> >>>>
> >>>> use OSPF for distributing loop back IP's
> >>>> use iBGP (a requirement) between all the routers (each router needs
> one session
> >>>> to each of the others) for re-distributing your BGP routes
> >>>>
> >>>> If you want to run your network as three islands, I suppose you could
> do it they
> >>>> way you are trying to..
> >>>> but you are going to have some interesting issues to deal with
> (especially if
> >>>> there is an anomaly on one of the paths, and your asymmetric traffic
> will show
> >>>> weird stuff).
> >>>>
> >>>>> Do not be afraid to assume I have no idea what I am doing. I have
> >>>>> followed every rule I can find online so obviously I'm doing
> something
> >>>>> wrong.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On 11/1/2017 9:45 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
> >>>>>> I wish there was a simple answer to your question...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> But... there are some more questions....
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> With the setup you have described.....
> >>>>>>      Are you running iBGP sessions between all the routers ?
> >>>>>>         if not.. then you are not properly configured.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> In today's day and age, one needs to do Traffic Engineering to have
> the type of
> >>>>>> traffic flow one desires.
> >>>>>>      I wish there was a 'one solution' that fits all situations..
> but there isn't
> >>>>>>      one.
> >>>>>>      Each IP Transit provider is doing their own 'style' of Network
> Traffic
> >>>>>>      Engineering
> >>>>>>      One has to understand that first and then try to compensate
> for it.
> >>>>>>         One should ask their upstream for a list of their BGP
> Communities, that gives a
> >>>>>>         good starting point.
> >>>>>>         Using the upstream's Looking glass, if available is also a
> great tool in
> >>>>>>         verifying the traffic engineering
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> simply passing ASN's does not work (most of the time, but varies
> with upstream)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> BGP Traffic engineering is more like steering a Boat Rudder than
> steering a
> >>>>>> car... :)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> If what is listed above makes sense to you, then you have some
> starting points
> >>>>>> to read up and understand BGP
> >>>>>> If the above does not.. then I suggest you get someone to help you
> with the
> >>>>>> setup.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Regards.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Faisal Imtiaz
> >>>>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> >>>>>> http://www.snappytelecom.net
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email:
> supp...@snappytelecom.net
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>>> From: "Ethan E. Dee via Mikrotik-users" <mikrotik-users@wispa.org>
> >>>>>>> To: "Mark Grigsby via Mikrotik-users" <mikrotik-users@wispa.org>
> >>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 9:06:27 AM
> >>>>>>> Subject: [Mikrotik Users] BGP Question
> >>>>>>> I am multihomed. I have a router that peers with charter and
> advertises
> >>>>>>> a few subnets. (Let's call it C)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I have a router that peers with AT&T at a tower (lets call it A)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> And a router that peers with Spirit at a tower (lets call it S)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> AT&T seems to have quite a low preference to the world. And I have
> no
> >>>>>>> idea what I'm doing. Though I feel like I do.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Nothing works.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> All three routers are mikrotik. How do I tell the world to forget
> about
> >>>>>>> Charters advertisements unless you can no longer see AT&T?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
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