Looks to me like the only solution is to replace it.  And the Tranzeo
has been working for years, too...

On 12/2/09, Bill Prince <part...@skylinebroadbandservice.com> wrote:
> WDS only cuts the bandwidth in half if you're using it as a wireless
> repeater.
>
> Station WDS also enables the transparent bridge capability.  I think if
> you configure the MT with WDS, the Tranzeo will still connect as a
> regular station (Tranzeo does not have a "staion WDS mode").
>
> I know that UBNT does a station WDS.
>
> I've never compared to see if the transparent bridging works on Tranzeo
> when it is a client on an AP that has WDS enabled.  The only way to make
> a Tranzeo "WDS" is to make it a WDS AP.  However, if it's not actually
> repeating to another client, then there should not be any cut in bandwidth.
>
>
>
>
> Bill Prince
> Skyline Broadband Service
> (a division of Coastal Sierra)
> 650-917-9279
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman wrote:
>> WDS cuts bandwidth in half because it "syncs" with the AP.  Not sure
>> is ap wds and station wds act the same though.
>>
>> On 12/2/09, Chris Gotstein <ch...@uplogon.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I keep hearing that it cuts your bandwidth in half on the AP side.
>>> Seems everyone (vendors) i talk to tells me to stay away from it.
>>>
>>> Robert Andrews wrote:
>>>
>>>> But the ends do justify the means...   WDS is how wireless should have
>>>> worked in the first place..    Anyone have a reason that it wasn't done
>>>> this way in the first place?
>>>>
>>>> On 12/01/2009 10:30 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yesh.   I just went through this a few weeks ago; all remotely.  The
>>>>> hassle is that when you switch the Tranzeo to AP mode, you need to get
>>>>> into it again to enter the MAC address of the "partner".  But if you
>>>>> then switch the MT into client mode, it will let you get back into the
>>>>> Tranzeo.  Then finish up the MAC address rigmarole.  Finally, go back
>>>>> to the MT and switch it to WDS as previously described.
>>>>>
>>>>> Note that you may have to "hunt" for the SSID on the Tranzeo if it's
>>>>> never been an AP before.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Bill Prince
>>>>> Skyline Broadband Service
>>>>> (a division of Coastal Sierra)
>>>>> 650-917-9279
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Ryan Spott wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> You can... if you are careful. :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do the tranzeo first, and then hope everything connects when do you
>>>>>> setup
>>>>>> the Mtik. :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ryan
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 9:52 PM, Josh Luthman
>>>>>> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Aww damn I can't do it remotely can I? :(
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 12/2/09, Robert Andrews <rob...@avantwireless.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In WDS (not extended proprietary WDS like some vendors have),  BOTH
>>>>>>>> devices are in AP mode.  That's why you don't see WDS on the tranzeo
>>>>>>>> till you switch it to AP.   Both devices will get the mac address
>>>>>>>> of the
>>>>>>>> other radio.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 12/01/2009 08:53 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> MT AP and Tranzeo CPE - reverse that.  I have WDS on my AP already.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 12/1/09, Ryan Spott<rsp...@cspott.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On the Tranzeo:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 1. Wireless Settings ->  Wireless Mode: Access Point
>>>>>>>>>> 2. Apply
>>>>>>>>>> 3. WDS (this is now visible)
>>>>>>>>>> 4. Enter AP MAC Address 1 (this would be the MAC address of the
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mikrotik
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ie:
>>>>>>>>>> 0000006300F6)
>>>>>>>>>> 5. Apply
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On the Mikrotik (no laughing all you CLI junkies, I can kick butt
>>>>>>>>>> on a
>>>>>>>>>> Cisco... just not an Mtik)
>>>>>>>>>> 1. Interface
>>>>>>>>>> 2. Click the Plus button and choose WDS
>>>>>>>>>> 3. Under the WDS tab of the window that pops up choose the master
>>>>>>>>>> interface
>>>>>>>>>> appropriately.
>>>>>>>>>> 4. Under the WDS tab of the window that pops up enter the MAC
>>>>>>>>>> address
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> Tranzeo in 00:00:00 format.
>>>>>>>>>> 5. Add this new interface to the bridge group that your other
>>>>>>>>>> interface
>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>> in.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That should be it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ryan
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Josh Luthman
>>>>>>>>>> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> TR6 I think.  I know it has an external 24dbi grid.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/1/09, D. Ryan Spott<rsp...@cspott.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> What model Tranzeo are you running?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ryan
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 1, 2009, at 5:04 PM, Josh
>>>>>>>>>>>> Luthman<j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>               wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> How can I do WDS?  Where is the option?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/1/09, Ryan Spott<rsp...@cspott.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can do WDS mode.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have this running on 2 poor-mans-repeaters right now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ryan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 2:56 PM, Josh Luthman
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My tranzeo?  There is no "bridge mode" so I'm not sure what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you're
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> referring
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to.  It is in infrastructure mode.  I can't do WDS/PxP mode
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> requires
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a Tranzeo AP (my AP is Mikrotik).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sources."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --- Albert Einstein
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 5:55 PM, Carl A jeptha
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <wispli...@airnet.ca>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This Tranzeo is in bridge mode?????
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have a Good Day now,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carl A Jeptha
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.airnet.ca
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Office Phone: 1-877-534-0021 ext 206
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> skype cajeptha
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Never used any agents.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am trying to document these customers behind this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tranzeo CPE
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (it's a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> small repeater) and the arp proxy makes it one bit more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> difficult.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does anyone know how the Dude can give me the correct MAC
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> device
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the right IP?  It obviously isn't simple ARP.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sources."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --- Albert Einstein
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Carl A jeptha
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <wispli...@airnet.ca>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have found that the Dude Server has no problem with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tranzeo's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bridge
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mode. The "Agent" on the Ap's has a problem with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tranzeo's in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Router
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mode.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have a Good Day now,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carl A Jeptha
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.airnet.ca
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Office Phone: 1-877-534-0021 ext 206
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> skype cajeptha
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WDS mode or PTP mode (PxP mode on wireless settings)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> requires
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tranzeo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AP
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as well.  Does not work with any other AP.  Stupid
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 802.11.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is odd to me is that Ubnt AirOS (and obviously
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mikrotik)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CPEs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mikrotik APs can do this.  Any idea why?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> sources."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --- Albert Einstein
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 8:51 PM, Bill Prince<
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> part...@skylinebroadbandservice.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's SOP in 802.11.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To not obfuscate the MAC addresses behind a Tranzeo,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you need
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> turn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PTP mode and/or use WDS.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The key is "transparent bridge", and box-stock 802.11
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> devices
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> transparent bridge.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill Prince
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Skyline Broadband Service
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (a division of Coastal Sierra)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 650-917-9279
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tranzeo has a problem with proxy arp - everything
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> behind it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MAC
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the Tranzeo.   Might be related.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/18/09, Richard Hatherill Jr.<ri...@callrich.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I could never get dude to work properly past a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> particular
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> backhaul
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> network.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have 10 Mikrotik links on the other side of a tr5a24
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bridge /
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> backhaul.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just replaced the tr5a24's with a mikrotik backhaul
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weeks ago,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All 10 of the Mikrotik boxes on the other side have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 100%
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reporting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dude now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Before the replacement 1-5 of the mik boxes would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> report
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> up/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> down
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conditions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all through the day.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now all is well. Nothing down in 2 weeks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rich Hatherill
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cnywireless
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Carl A jeptha"<wispli...@airnet.ca>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 7:44 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "Mikrotik
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussions"<mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Mikrotik] Strange DUDE problem
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have restarted my DUDE program for monitoring
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> purposes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But now seem to have a new issue with Tranzeo's.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When the Dude agent in a subnet does a scan for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> devices
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (discovery)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will attach all the tranzeo mac addresses to a single
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> tranzeo
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> radio????
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have a Good Day now,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carl A Jeptha
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.airnet.ca
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Office Phone: 1-877-534-0021 ext 206
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> skype cajeptha
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> related to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mikrotik
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RouterOS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources."
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --- Albert Einstein
>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mikrotik mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mikrotik
>>>>>>>>>>>>> RouterOS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mikrotik mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mikrotik
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> RouterOS
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>             --
>>>>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources."
>>>>>>>>>>> --- Albert Einstein
>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>> Mikrotik mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to
>>>>>>>>>>> Mikrotik
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>>>>>>>>>> Mikrotik mailing list
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>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to
>>>>>>>>>> Mikrotik
>>>>>>>>>> RouterOS
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> Mikrotik mailing list
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>>>>>>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> RouterOS
>>>>>>>     --
>>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources."
>>>>>>> --- Albert Einstein
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> Mikrotik mailing list
>>>>>>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com
>>>>>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik
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