The issue is you cannot bridge a wireless station. So Tranzeo and those units do MAC NAT and another such trickery. Normally with one IP behind it, its not a big deal. But if you have many, that's where you can get that wrong. You would have to have something behind that MAC NAT to be affective.
----------------------------------------------------------- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services WISPA Vendor Member Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training Author of "Learn RouterOS" -----Original Message----- From: mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com [mailto:mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 4:51 PM To: Mikrotik discussions Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] Strange DUDE problem Never used any agents. I am trying to document these customers behind this Tranzeo CPE (it's a small repeater) and the arp proxy makes it one bit more difficult. Does anyone know how the Dude can give me the correct MAC if I make a device with the right IP? It obviously isn't simple ARP. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." --- Albert Einstein On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Carl A jeptha <wispli...@airnet.ca> wrote: > I have found that the Dude Server has no problem with Tranzeo's in bridge > mode. The "Agent" on the Ap's has a problem with tranzeo's in Router mode. > > > You have a Good Day now, > > > Carl A Jeptha > http://www.airnet.ca > Office Phone: 1-877-534-0021 ext 206 > Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm > skype cajeptha > > > > Josh Luthman wrote: > >> WDS mode or PTP mode (PxP mode on wireless settings) requires a Tranzeo AP >> as well. Does not work with any other AP. Stupid 802.11. >> >> What is odd to me is that Ubnt AirOS (and obviously Mikrotik) CPEs and >> Mikrotik APs can do this. Any idea why? >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." >> --- Albert Einstein >> >> >> On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 8:51 PM, Bill Prince < >> part...@skylinebroadbandservice.com> wrote: >> >> >> >>> That's SOP in 802.11. >>> >>> To not obfuscate the MAC addresses behind a Tranzeo, you need to turn on >>> PTP mode and/or use WDS. >>> The key is "transparent bridge", and box-stock 802.11 devices do not do >>> transparent bridge. >>> >>> >>> Bill Prince >>> Skyline Broadband Service >>> (a division of Coastal Sierra) >>> 650-917-9279 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Josh Luthman wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> Tranzeo has a problem with proxy arp - everything behind it is the MAC >>>> of the Tranzeo. Might be related. >>>> >>>> On 11/18/09, Richard Hatherill Jr. <ri...@callrich.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> I could never get dude to work properly past a particular backhaul of >>>>> my >>>>> network. >>>>> >>>>> I have 10 Mikrotik links on the other side of a tr5a24 bridge / >>>>> backhaul. >>>>> >>>>> I just replaced the tr5a24's with a mikrotik backhaul 2 weeks ago, >>>>> >>>>> All 10 of the Mikrotik boxes on the other side have been 100% reporting >>>>> in >>>>> Dude now. >>>>> >>>>> Before the replacement 1-5 of the mik boxes would report up/down >>>>> conditions >>>>> all through the day. >>>>> >>>>> Now all is well. Nothing down in 2 weeks. >>>>> >>>>> Rich Hatherill >>>>> Cnywireless >>>>> >>>>> ---------------------------------------- >>>>> >>>>> From: "Carl A jeptha" <wispli...@airnet.ca> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 7:44 PM >>>>> To: "Mikrotik discussions" <mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com> >>>>> Subject: [Mikrotik] Strange DUDE problem >>>>> >>>>> I have restarted my DUDE program for monitoring purposes. >>>>> But now seem to have a new issue with Tranzeo's. >>>>> When the Dude agent in a subnet does a scan for devices (discovery) it >>>>> will attach all the tranzeo mac addresses to a single tranzeo radio???? >>>>> Any thoughts? >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You have a Good Day now, >>>>> >>>>> Carl A Jeptha >>>>> http://www.airnet.ca >>>>> Office Phone: 1-877-534-0021 ext 206 >>>>> Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm >>>>> skype cajeptha >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Mikrotik mailing list >>>>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >>>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >>>>> >>>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik >>>>> RouterOS >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -------------- next part -------------- >>>>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>>>> URL: >>>>> < >>>>> >>>>> http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20091118/f5b180 36/attachment.html >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Mikrotik mailing list >>>>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >>>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >>>>> >>>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik >>>>> RouterOS >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Mikrotik mailing list >>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >>> >>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik >>> RouterOS >>> >>> >>> >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: < >> http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20091201/f7955e 4e/attachment.html >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mikrotik mailing list >> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >> >> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik >> RouterOS >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20091201/5591cc 90/attachment.html > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mikrotik mailing list > Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com > http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik > > Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik > RouterOS > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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