The issue is you cannot bridge a wireless station.  So Tranzeo and those
units do MAC NAT and another such trickery.  Normally with one IP behind
it, its not a big deal.  But if you have many, that's where you can get
that wrong.  You would have to have something behind that MAC NAT to be
affective.  

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-----Original Message-----
From: mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com
[mailto:mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 4:51 PM
To: Mikrotik discussions
Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] Strange DUDE problem

Never used any agents.

I am trying to document these customers behind this Tranzeo CPE (it's a
small repeater) and the arp proxy makes it one bit more difficult.

Does anyone know how the Dude can give me the correct MAC if I make a
device
with the right IP?  It obviously isn't simple ARP.

Josh Luthman
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"The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources."
--- Albert Einstein


On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Carl A jeptha <wispli...@airnet.ca>
wrote:

> I have found that the Dude Server has no problem with Tranzeo's in
bridge
> mode. The "Agent" on the Ap's has a problem with tranzeo's in Router
mode.
>
>
> You have a Good Day now,
>
>
> Carl A Jeptha
> http://www.airnet.ca
> Office Phone: 1-877-534-0021 ext 206
> Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm
> skype cajeptha
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman wrote:
>
>> WDS mode or PTP mode (PxP mode on wireless settings) requires a
Tranzeo AP
>> as well.  Does not work with any other AP.  Stupid 802.11.
>>
>> What is odd to me is that Ubnt AirOS (and obviously Mikrotik) CPEs
and
>> Mikrotik APs can do this.  Any idea why?
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources."
>> --- Albert Einstein
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 8:51 PM, Bill Prince <
>> part...@skylinebroadbandservice.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> That's SOP in 802.11.
>>>
>>> To not obfuscate the MAC addresses behind a Tranzeo, you need to
turn on
>>> PTP mode and/or use WDS.
>>> The key is "transparent bridge", and box-stock 802.11 devices do not
do
>>> transparent bridge.
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill Prince
>>> Skyline Broadband Service
>>> (a division of Coastal Sierra)
>>> 650-917-9279
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Tranzeo has a problem with proxy arp - everything behind it is the
MAC
>>>> of the Tranzeo.   Might be related.
>>>>
>>>> On 11/18/09, Richard Hatherill Jr. <ri...@callrich.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I could never get dude to work properly past a particular backhaul
of
>>>>> my
>>>>> network.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have 10 Mikrotik links on the other side of a tr5a24 bridge /
>>>>> backhaul.
>>>>>
>>>>> I just replaced the tr5a24's with a mikrotik backhaul 2 weeks ago,
>>>>>
>>>>> All 10 of the Mikrotik boxes on the other side have been 100%
reporting
>>>>> in
>>>>> Dude now.
>>>>>
>>>>> Before the replacement 1-5 of the mik boxes would report up/down
>>>>> conditions
>>>>> all through the day.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now all is well. Nothing down in 2 weeks.
>>>>>
>>>>> Rich Hatherill
>>>>> Cnywireless
>>>>>
>>>>> ----------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> From: "Carl A jeptha" <wispli...@airnet.ca>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 7:44 PM
>>>>> To: "Mikrotik discussions" <mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com>
>>>>> Subject: [Mikrotik] Strange DUDE problem
>>>>>
>>>>> I have restarted my DUDE program for monitoring purposes.
>>>>> But now seem to have a new issue with Tranzeo's.
>>>>> When the Dude agent in a subnet does a scan for devices
(discovery) it
>>>>> will attach all the tranzeo mac addresses to a single tranzeo
radio????
>>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> You have a Good Day now,
>>>>>
>>>>> Carl A Jeptha
>>>>> http://www.airnet.ca
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