No doubt, I miss the Tranzeo list on Part-15.org as well. No offense meant to 
Tranzeo, but their wiki or whatever they have is very sad.

---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: Chris Gotstein <ch...@uplogon.com>
Reply-To: Mikrotik discussions <mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com>
Date:  Wed, 21 Apr 2010 14:27:12 -0500

>Is the list active?  I'm pretty sure i'm subscribed to it.  I miss the
>tranzeo list from Part-15.
>
>---- ---- ---- ----
>Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP
>http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com
>
>On 4/21/2010 2:25 PM, D. Ryan Spott wrote:
>> There are new Tranzeo lists to complain on at wispa.
>> 
>> ;P
>> 
>> ryan
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 21, 2010, at 11:42 AM, "Damian Wallace" <dwall...@tranzeo.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Point taken.  We are working on it.
>>>
>>> Back to MT issues.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com
>>> [mailto:mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com] On Behalf Of Chris
>>> Gotstein
>>> Sent: April-21-10 11:16 AM
>>> To: Mikrotik discussions
>>> Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] [Spam Bayesian - ] - Re: Mikrotik/StarOS
>>> 10mhz/5mhz channel compatibility - Bayesian Filter detected spam
>>>
>>> Running MT APs with XR2 cards.  No problems connecting Tranzeo CPQ/SL2
>>> or UBNT radios when using a 10mhz channel.
>>>
>>> I do agree on how well we like our Tranzeo radios.  I just wish they
>>> could come down on the price of the CPQ-19f radio.  We can get a
>>> bullet2HP w/ 19db panel for a lot less.  The price on the
>>> CPQ-15f/SL2-15f is perfect and competitive with a Bullet2 w/ 16db panel.
>>>
>>> ---- ---- ---- ----
>>> Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP
>>> http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com
>>>
>>> On 4/21/2010 12:39 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>>> Does Tranzeo work with Ubnt or MT or StarOS in 5 or 10 mhz channels?
>>>>
>>>> I guess 2.4 and 5ghz are different compatibility wise as it's come to
>>> light
>>>> that StarOS and MT work together in 5ghz but not 2.4.
>>>>
>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>> Suite 1337
>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>
>>>> "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
>>> continue
>>>> that counts."
>>>> --- Winston Churchill
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Robert Andrews
>>> <rob...@avantwireless.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Damian,
>>>>       Thank you for making this public.   We know that MT and
>>> Valemount
>>>> have
>>>> no love lost, and thanks to both Tranzeo and UBNT for working with
>>> both
>>>> of them.   Your competitive spirit made this business thrive against
>>>> proprietary interests...   We wish that StarOS and MT would have
>>>> cooperated in this to make it so we didn't have to choose one or the
>>>> other.  We would have both in our network for each of their particular
>>>> advantages if they had....   Our testing showed ST did better on
>>>> customer throughput and MT did better as real routers...
>>>>
>>>> Tranzeo and UBNT did best as customer equipment with Tranzeo doing
>>>> better in marginal conditions and UBNT doing better in price...   So
>>> we
>>>> have both.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>       Robert
>>>>
>>>> On 04/21/2010 10:22 AM, Damian Wallace wrote:
>>>>>>> Insert Flame here ^^^^^^^
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> State Secret.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The beacons from one are in a different format than the other. It
>>> has to
>>>>>>> fixed in the code by one or the other, preferably both.  An SA,
>>> unless
>>>>>>> it's a high end lab grade one, won't show the difference.
>>> Since 5
>>>>>>> MHz was a lucky accident on Atheros' part, they never documented
>>> how to
>>>>>>> use it fully so different vendors made reasonable, but different,
>>>>>>> choices about how to modify their drivers to use it.  Result is
>>> staring
>>>>>>> Matt in the face with an evil grin.  It can be fixed, in code
>>> though.
>>>>>>> After all, Tranzeo and other brands can connect to both.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Damian
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com
>>>>>>> [mailto:mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com] On Behalf Of D. Ryan
>>> Spott
>>>>>>> Sent: April-21-10 10:09 AM
>>>>>>> To: Mikrotik discussions
>>>>>>> Cc: Mikrotik discussions
>>>>>>> Subject: [Spam Bayesian - ] - Re: [Mikrotik] Mikrotik/StarOS
>>> 10mhz/5mhz
>>>>>>> channel compatibility - Bayesian Filter detected spam
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What are the center frequencies reported by the staros and mtik
>>> boxes
>>>>>>> when you go to 10mhz channels?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do you have a spectrum analyzer?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ryan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Apr 21, 2010, at 10:04 AM, Matt Larsen - Lists
>>>>>>> <li...@manageisp.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Did some more testing on this today.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 5ghz 10mhz and 5mhz channels seem to work fine, with Mikrotik as a
>>>>>>>> client to a StarOS AP.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2.4ghz 10mhz and 5mhz channels do not work at all with Mikrotik as
>>> a
>>>>>>>> client to a StarOS AP.   I did verify that the 20mhz channel
>>>>>>>> settings worked fine.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This was using Mikrotik R52 cards on both sides, Hardware Retries
>>>>>>>> set to 15 and tested under Mikrotik 2.9.48 and 3.25.   StarOS is
>>>>>>>> version 1.3.23b.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ideas?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Matt Larsen
>>>>>>>> vistabeam.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 4/13/2010 7:18 AM, Chuck Hogg wrote:
>>>>>>>>> What specifically is the problem?  They won't connect on 5/10MHz
>>> on a
>>>>>>>>> StarOS AP?  Is the StarOS AP an Atheros based AP?  Have you tried
>>>>>>>>> setting Hardware Retries to 15 under advanced wireless settings
>>> on
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> Tik?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>> Chuck Hogg
>>>>>>>>> Shelby Broadband
>>>>>>>>> 502-722-9292
>>>>>>>>> ch...@shelbybb.com
>>>>>>>>> http://www.shelbybb.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com
>>>>>>>>> [mailto:mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com] On Behalf Of Matt
>>>>>>>>> Larsen -
>>>>>>>>> Lists
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 9:13 AM
>>>>>>>>> To: Mikrotik discussions
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Mikrotik] Mikrotik/StarOS 10mhz/5mhz channel
>>> compatibility
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I realize that I asked this question a few months ago, but
>>> thought
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> I would ask again to see if anyone knows whether there have been
>>>>>>>>> changes
>>>>>>>>> in new versions of Mikrotik that would fix the compatibility with
>>>>>>>>> StarOS
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 10mhz/5mhz APs?    I have a pile of MT units that are no good to
>>> me
>>>>>>>>> unless they work with StarOS APs.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Matt Larsen
>>>>>>>>> vistabeam.com
>>>>>>>>>
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