Well, if the issue truly is oversubscription on the satellite service and more bandwidth is needed, why not combine providers to get more capacity?
On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 1:01 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: > What about it? You QOS based on interface in MT. > > On 5/22/10, RickG <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote: >> What about combining multiple providers? >> >> On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 11:25 AM, D. Ryan Spott <rsp...@cspott.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hey Dan, >>> >>> Have you considered switching providers? >>> >>> <http://www.groundcontrol.com/US_Alaska_Satellite_Internet.htm> >>> >>> Are there any com sites between mcgrath and mt Su? >>> >>> And as an aside, I noticed your KYES domain name. Are you thier engineer? >>> >>> ryan >>> >>> >>> On May 22, 2010, at 8:06 AM, Bill Prince >>> <part...@skylinebroadbandservice.com> wrote: >>> >>>> All the satellites are seriously oversubscribed. That is probably the >>>> source of your varying bandwidth. >>>> >>>> Does your satellite provider have such a thing as a dedicated pipe (I >>>> don't know if that is even possible)? >>>> >>>> If you had dedicated bandwidth, then you would have the ability to parcel >>>> it out/prioritize it. >>>> >>>> If anything screams broadband stimulus, it would be a place like that! >>>> >>>> bp >>>> >>>> >>>> On 5/21/2010 10:05 PM, Dan Ferguson wrote: >>>>> >>>>> It's definitely in the middle of no where, I wouldn't want to live >>>>> there. >>>>> We originally helped them install Internet service there in 1998 with >>>>> our >>>>> previous company Spectrum Wireless, we assisted the local utility with >>>>> installation and operation. At Spectrum we built wireless routers back >>>>> then >>>>> with 1Mbps aironet radios, at that time Mikrotik was selling aironet >>>>> gear as >>>>> well. We certainly have come a long ways since then. >>>>> >>>>> They only get stuff in maybe once a year by barge. Sometimes the barge >>>>> can't make it so they have to fly everything in. This year gas went to >>>>> over >>>>> $9/gallon. The only way to do a microwave relay would be to a military >>>>> site >>>>> at mountain village. It's not an option for us do to available funds, >>>>> that >>>>> isn't even considering ROI. >>>>> >>>>> Everything there runs over satellite, the local LEC runs everything over >>>>> satellite. The big upgrade for the town in the last year or so was >>>>> cellular >>>>> service. There are a number of seasonal jobs and state and federal >>>>> workers >>>>> as well. >>>>> >>>>> We used to have 2Mbps/512Kbps. After having these problems we upped it >>>>> to >>>>> 3Mbps/512Kbps and on this coming Monday we are upgrading to 4M/512Kbps. >>>>> This >>>>> is just an attempt to alleviate the problem a bit. Even then we don't >>>>> expect >>>>> it to be as good as it was previously with 2M/512K. We are worried that >>>>> 4M >>>>> won't help that much, at 3Mbps currently we see about 950-1100Kbps >>>>> typical >>>>> peak throughout during the day from 8am to 10pm. The rest of the time >>>>> the >>>>> whole town of McGrath is sleeping and no one is using it for the most >>>>> part. >>>>> People are currently unable to trade stocks or play online poker even >>>>> without running into problems. >>>>> >>>>> - Dan >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 5/21/2010 6:27 AM, Bill Prince wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Yikes. >>>>>> >>>>>> I just took a peek at the map, and it shows Mcgrath ~~ 220 air miles NW >>>>>> of Anchorage. That is truly no man's land. >>>>>> >>>>>> And if I read the map correctly, there are _NO_ roads going there. So >>>>>> the only way in or out is via airplane (or up/down the river)? >>>>>> >>>>>> For 220 miles, you would need (at least) 3 backhauls to go that >>>>>> distance; more likely more. >>>>>> >>>>>> What do they do for phone service? >>>>>> >>>>>> What do they do for a living out there? >>>>>> >>>>>> wow.... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> bp >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 5/20/2010 10:46 PM, Dan Ferguson wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello everyone, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We have a site in a very tiny town in McGrath Alaska that we have to >>>>>>> run on Satellite, the amount of bandwidth we receive is always >>>>>>> variable. >>>>>>> It's shared at a 5:1 ratio and uses compression, so we see bandwidth >>>>>>> levels >>>>>>> vary based on the other satellite users usage. The problem with this >>>>>>> is we >>>>>>> are unable to effectively shape users to allow all users to get a >>>>>>> slice of >>>>>>> the overall feed. Our provider modified the shaping for our network >>>>>>> recently >>>>>>> and moved us to a more busy circuit which has been brutal for our >>>>>>> customers. >>>>>>> The first couple of customers can reach their service level and then >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> rest get stuck in the mud. So a couple will hit 512Kbps (with one >>>>>>> session) >>>>>>> and then other may see only 8-12Kbps (bits). This has only started >>>>>>> since the >>>>>>> shaping was modified by the provider. We have to find an solution as >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> service they are receiving currently is unacceptable. We could lower >>>>>>> each >>>>>>> users capable service level but that would only delay the problem from >>>>>>> occurring until more users had peaked the unknown amount of bandwidth >>>>>>> available. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am hoping that it is possible to setup shaping in this situation on >>>>>>> a >>>>>>> Mikrotik to help alleviate the problem. I have a bunch of Mikrotik's >>>>>>> deployed but this type of configuration is something I don't have >>>>>>> experience >>>>>>> with. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - Dan >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Mikrotik mailing list >>>>>>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >>>>>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik >>>>>>> RouterOS >>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Mikrotik mailing list >>>>>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >>>>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >>>>>> >>>>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik >>>>>> RouterOS >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Mikrotik mailing list >>>>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >>>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >>>>> >>>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik >>>>> RouterOS >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Mikrotik mailing list >>>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >>>> >>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik >>>> RouterOS >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Mikrotik mailing list >>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >>> >>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik >>> RouterOS >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mikrotik mailing list >> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >> >> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS >> > > > -- > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to > continue that counts.” > --- Winston Churchill > _______________________________________________ > Mikrotik mailing list > Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com > http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik > > Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS > _______________________________________________ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
