In the past I have considered some horrible kludge of a sat provider
augmented with Hughs or Starband for caching maybe. I'm sure it would be
painful and might not work so we haven't really pursued it. Plus the
additional costs in equipment and dishes makes it hard to consider.
Tying the two systems together would be challenging as well.
On 5/22/2010 8:47 AM, RickG wrote:
What about combining multiple providers?
On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 11:25 AM, D. Ryan Spott<rsp...@cspott.com> wrote:
Hey Dan,
Have you considered switching providers?
<http://www.groundcontrol.com/US_Alaska_Satellite_Internet.htm>
Are there any com sites between mcgrath and mt Su?
And as an aside, I noticed your KYES domain name. Are you thier engineer?
ryan
On May 22, 2010, at 8:06 AM, Bill Prince
<part...@skylinebroadbandservice.com> wrote:
All the satellites are seriously oversubscribed. That is probably the
source of your varying bandwidth.
Does your satellite provider have such a thing as a dedicated pipe (I
don't know if that is even possible)?
If you had dedicated bandwidth, then you would have the ability to parcel
it out/prioritize it.
If anything screams broadband stimulus, it would be a place like that!
bp
On 5/21/2010 10:05 PM, Dan Ferguson wrote:
It's definitely in the middle of no where, I wouldn't want to live there.
We originally helped them install Internet service there in 1998 with our
previous company Spectrum Wireless, we assisted the local utility with
installation and operation. At Spectrum we built wireless routers back then
with 1Mbps aironet radios, at that time Mikrotik was selling aironet gear as
well. We certainly have come a long ways since then.
They only get stuff in maybe once a year by barge. Sometimes the barge
can't make it so they have to fly everything in. This year gas went to over
$9/gallon. The only way to do a microwave relay would be to a military site
at mountain village. It's not an option for us do to available funds, that
isn't even considering ROI.
Everything there runs over satellite, the local LEC runs everything over
satellite. The big upgrade for the town in the last year or so was cellular
service. There are a number of seasonal jobs and state and federal workers
as well.
We used to have 2Mbps/512Kbps. After having these problems we upped it to
3Mbps/512Kbps and on this coming Monday we are upgrading to 4M/512Kbps. This
is just an attempt to alleviate the problem a bit. Even then we don't expect
it to be as good as it was previously with 2M/512K. We are worried that 4M
won't help that much, at 3Mbps currently we see about 950-1100Kbps typical
peak throughout during the day from 8am to 10pm. The rest of the time the
whole town of McGrath is sleeping and no one is using it for the most part.
People are currently unable to trade stocks or play online poker even
without running into problems.
- Dan
On 5/21/2010 6:27 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
Yikes.
I just took a peek at the map, and it shows Mcgrath ~~ 220 air miles NW
of Anchorage. That is truly no man's land.
And if I read the map correctly, there are _NO_ roads going there. So
the only way in or out is via airplane (or up/down the river)?
For 220 miles, you would need (at least) 3 backhauls to go that
distance; more likely more.
What do they do for phone service?
What do they do for a living out there?
wow....
bp
On 5/20/2010 10:46 PM, Dan Ferguson wrote:
Hello everyone,
We have a site in a very tiny town in McGrath Alaska that we have to
run on Satellite, the amount of bandwidth we receive is always variable.
It's shared at a 5:1 ratio and uses compression, so we see bandwidth levels
vary based on the other satellite users usage. The problem with this is we
are unable to effectively shape users to allow all users to get a slice of
the overall feed. Our provider modified the shaping for our network recently
and moved us to a more busy circuit which has been brutal for our customers.
The first couple of customers can reach their service level and then the
rest get stuck in the mud. So a couple will hit 512Kbps (with one session)
and then other may see only 8-12Kbps (bits). This has only started since the
shaping was modified by the provider. We have to find an solution as the
service they are receiving currently is unacceptable. We could lower each
users capable service level but that would only delay the problem from
occurring until more users had peaked the unknown amount of bandwidth
available.
I am hoping that it is possible to setup shaping in this situation on a
Mikrotik to help alleviate the problem. I have a bunch of Mikrotik's
deployed but this type of configuration is something I don't have experience
with.
Thanks,
- Dan
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